{"topic":{"id":14905,"title":"如果你每月工资到手 11k，朝 9 晚 6，父母家里有 2M cash，你是选择...还是...？","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2025-07-09 12:36:16.511745","bumpedAt":"2025-07-16 04:11:08.590055","views":599,"postsCount":37,"highestPostNumber":38,"likeCount":23,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"设定：如果你每月工资到手 11k，年终奖~60k，朝 9 晚 6，无需高强度动脑，但不定期加班到深夜，父母家里有 2M cash，已知当前岗位老老实实工作 10 年纯收入可 ×2.5\\times 2.5×2.5 。选择：你是选择在距离老家车程 2h 的本省省会贷款购买~3M 的 ∼120m2\\sim 120m^2∼120m2 的住宅并选则继续工作到死 ➕️ 找老婆结婚并含饴弄孙？还是爆父母金币，申请国外硕士并寻求工作移民？或是…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/86/f2/86f267c0aaa73835a999b7cc3a7e7a701605574eda9a2c2a56f5ddbbba64d1a9.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":60359,"postNumber":1,"raw":"设定：\n如果你每月工资到手 11k，年终奖~60k，朝 9 晚 6，无需高强度动脑，但不定期加班到深夜，父母家里有 2M cash，已知当前岗位老老实实工作 10 年纯收入可 $\\times 2.5$ 。\n\n选择：\n1. 你是选择在距离老家车程 2h 的本省省会贷款购买~3M 的 $\\sim 120m^2$ 的住宅并选则继续工作到死 :plus: 找老婆结婚并含饴弄孙？\n1. 还是爆父母金币，申请国外硕士并寻求工作移民？\n1. 或是工作 N 年存钱，并爆父母金币，寻求投资移民？\n1. 抑或是在空闲时间进行积极写码，寻求跨国公司远程工作机会/寻求国外工作机会？\n1. 抑或是在空闲时间寻求科研机会，远程科研并在机会成熟时申请全奖国外 PhD 并拼命科研直到有机会留在国外？\n2. Any other possible life choice you know/suggest?","cooked":"

设定：
\n如果你每月工资到手 11k，年终奖~60k，朝 9 晚 6，无需高强度动脑，但不定期加班到深夜，父母家里有 2M cash，已知当前岗位老老实实工作 10 年纯收入可 $\\times 2.5$ 。

选择：

你是选择在距离老家车程 2h 的本省省会贷款购买~3M 的 $\\sim 120m^2$ 的住宅并选则继续工作到死 ➕️ 找老婆结婚并含饴弄孙？
还是爆父母金币，申请国外硕士并寻求工作移民？
或是工作 N 年存钱，并爆父母金币，寻求投资移民？
抑或是在空闲时间进行积极写码，寻求跨国公司远程工作机会/寻求国外工作机会？
抑或是在空闲时间寻求科研机会，远程科研并在机会成熟时申请全奖国外 PhD 并拼命科研直到有机会留在国外？
Any other possible life choice you know/suggest?

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不买房，一直租房，结婚，不出国不移民，空闲时间写自己想写的代码/研究，旅游看另一半，想去哪去哪。

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去东南亚搞灰色产业做副业，做大了就换个不加班的工作，再大一点就全职搞灰产，不定期去东南亚，就当旅游。

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又是喜闻乐见的寻找 admin 时刻（bushi）

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现在哪敢买房
\n之前自己家里买了一套恒大，差点收不到房 😅

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买现房（二手房）

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越买越跌 😅
\n我反正准备先租房

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可以调研一下日本房价跌了多少年，这段时间买房不如租房的

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得考虑这一点，不是所有 couple 都能达成一致

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喜欢结婚的郭楠基本盘还是稳的

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如果你在找 admin，说明你没找到

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只有 #1 是 admin 的概率大点

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选择在距离老家车程 2h 的本省省会贷款购买~3M 的 $\\sim 120m^2$ 的住宅并选则继续工作到死 ➕️ 找老婆结婚
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但是有个问题，家里没钱，我也没钱。

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如果你每月工资到手 11k，年终奖~60k，朝 9 晚 6，无需高强度动脑，但不定期加班到深夜
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我将用剩余的时间读书写作并过上幸福的生活🥺除掉加班的部分完全是 Dream Life

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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人人都想飞跃疯人院，砸碎了窗户之后才发现隔壁只不过是另一间监室。不过既然“来都来了”，大多数人也就安顿下来了。

《飞跃疯人院》的结尾是 indian chief 向草原奔跑的背影，瞬间让我想起法国电影《四百击》极其相似的剧情，结尾处也是小男孩逃出少管所、奔向海边的样子。

这些主角们冲破枷锁之后都奔向了草原、山坡、大海这种广阔无垠的地方，剧情也在他们做足了思想斗争、鼓足勇气迈出第一步后戛然而止。这显然是令人沮丧的，因为这显示出，作者在这之后就写不下去了，只好让故事完结在这么一个奇怪的位置。即使是这些最经验老道、阅历丰富的编剧们也不知道“冲破枷锁”之后，人们应该迈向何方。现代人普遍的压抑、孤独与对自由的渴望，好像根本没有解决方法。

“跨越国境线”无疑是需要鼓足勇气的一步。准备语言、搜寻机会、完成繁杂的手续，每一步都不容易、又都给人憧憬和期待。不过“国境线”也只不过是时刻压迫着你的结构性归训的一种意象，“逃到国外去”是你将自己寻求自由的冲动浪漫主义化、小说化之后形成的一册剧本。

OP 给出的 5 个选项中 4 个都包含了移民海外，希望 OP 的人生剧本不要也像那些获奖无数的电影一样，结尾在“奔向大海”的那一幕。

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对国外滤镜比较深，还是得做好调研看看是否和自己的需求匹配

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也有 chicken out 的结局，详见乔伊斯《都柏林人》。奔向大海会不会后悔不知道，chicken out 一定会怀怨在心。

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现实世界中的人可没精神病院的病友们那么友善。他们总是将枪口对准弱者，将利剑刺向比自己更不幸者。你以为 RP McMurphy 会和在病院里一样得到同伴尊重？不，在现实中他只会遭受唾弃与嘲笑。

“奔向大海”的故事一文不值，没有金钱与社会地位，在他人看来不过是跳梁小丑。

精神病院里面只有 RP McMurphy 一个人是被强制扭送进来的，其他人随时有回家的自由，但没有人选择离开，通通拜倒在护士长的威严之下。他们会享受 M 创造出来的短暂自由与快乐，但当威严重新接管场面时，他们会毫不犹豫地撇开 M。就像懦夫 Bibbit 那样彻底出卖 M，然后在护士长威严和自我厌恶与否定的双重折磨下懦弱地自杀。尽管他，像其他所有人一样，有随时出院的自由。

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互联网上天天呐喊 L'Internationale 的无聊左左们，在左翼运动翻车时必是第一个跳出来讽刺和嘲笑的。

现代人要想幸福，趁早自己给自己切除 prefrontal cortex

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不要相信那些鼓励你去冒险的人，他们觊觎的只是你冒险成功之后他们可以分得些许边角残食。早早做好冒险失败后被彻底抛弃的心理准备

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除非你出于强烈的个人意志和很高的胜算把握去冒险，并且决心彻底为这一追求献身，有抛弃原先拥有的一切的决心。

成功则万人称颂，失败则万劫不复。

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精神病院的牢房中共 18 个人，其中真正的“精神病人”——幻觉妄想、思维混乱的 8 个人，再加上装聋作哑的 chief——反而被排挤在边缘，因为他们通通都是没用的“失能者”。所有剧情都只发生在“没什么病”的另 9 个人身上，这些人并无病理学上的精神疾病，“they are not crazy, but are dangerous”——不服管教、不适应规训者。

Chief 也是渴望自由的这群人中的一员，但因为没有改变的动力而装聋作哑卖傻，伪装成“失能者”，通过完全封闭自我来构建心理保护的屏障。

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要么努力参与到内卷游戏中去，享受竞争带来的满足与幸福；要么保持批判性的思考，享有独立意志的自由，但永远被思想的内耗折磨。

自由与幸福互为倒影，不存在自由的幸福。

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不急嘛先打个两年计划攒点钱，多多交友。未来这么长有情况突变，也说不准。

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精神病院里面只有 RP McMurphy 一个人是被强制扭送进来的
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他不是为了逃坐牢故意装病进来的？他是想走就能走但为了病友才不走的。

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尽管他，像其他所有人一样，有随时出院的自由。
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只有 McMurphy 和 chief 是正常人，你看的是平行宇宙的飞越疯人院？

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你以为 RP McMurphy 会和在病院里一样得到同伴尊重？不，在现实中他只会遭受唾弃与嘲笑。
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他的尊重是天生得到的？反抗护士长，提出看棒球赛，带病友去钓鱼，现实中有这种能力的人会得不到尊重？

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要么努力参与到内卷游戏中去，享受竞争带来的满足与幸福；要么保持批判性的思考，享有独立意志的自由，但永远被思想的内耗折磨。
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自由与幸福互为倒影，不存在自由的幸福。
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你交的民科神棍有点太多了。人文科学、社会科学的教育这一块是缺失的。社会经历也是缺失的。

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不定期加班到深夜
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这一点极大减分，因为完全影响 WLB，生活的自由被工作肆意剥夺的时候，工作就和坐牢一样了。

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距离老家车程 2h 的本省省会贷款购买~3M 的 $\\sim 120m^2$ 的住宅并选则继续工作到死 ➕️ 找老婆结婚并含饴弄孙
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千万不要掏空全家钱包贷款买房。再说 3M 120 平住宅基本上就是买地段和附加价值，应该仔细考量下附加价值是否真的值得你付出后面 10~20 年的工作选择自由（尤其在老婆和孩子还是一个饼的前提下）。

个人感觉 2 3 都是抛弃&榨干父母选择个人自由的做法，尊重祝福。

4 最稳妥，但是需要个人付出加倍努力。并且基本上短期内不能考虑建立稳定家庭（并非一定要建立家庭，但是观楼主选择 1，貌似有一定组建家庭想法）

5 越来越难，而且沉没成本十分大

6 老老实实攒够回老家 Fire or 老家找个钱少事少稳定的工作后结婚生子。

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他不是为了逃坐牢故意装病进来的？
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只有 McMurphy 和 chief 是正常人
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你是咋定义正常人的，mcmurphy 不是反社会型人格障碍？chief 这么明显的解离与木僵也叫正常？

在疯人院看来这些人全都是疯子，在观众看来这 9 个人都是正常人。

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他的尊重是天生得到的？
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他得到了尊重，然后被同伴出卖、最后被折磨成植物人，看上去很有尊严？

那些为你摇旗呐喊的人，

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他们觊觎的只是你冒险成功之后他们可以分得些许边角残食。早早做好冒险失败后被彻底抛弃的心理准备
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所以还是 chief 聪明，要跑就自己跑了

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人文科学、社会科学的教育这一块是缺失的。社会经历也是缺失的。
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张口就来，也没见阁下提出什么高见。

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你看的是平行宇宙的飞越疯人院？
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中间开会的时候就说了，其他人都是自愿进来的，随时可以走。mcmurphy 还问了好几个人，一脸难以置信。

你没注意到就没注意到，别发明平行宇宙

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取决于工作内容给我带来的反馈

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为什么除了 1 这个选项全是润学？最舒服的选项是不买房不结婚，长期租房或者在父母家住，舒服躺平一辈子。如果真有人是这个条件然后选 1，我觉得他是没思考的从众，如果他选 2345 还没有充分的理由，我觉得他应该已经坚持看了 30 年意林，没救了。姑且认为这里的国外指的是北美、除了东欧以外的欧洲、日新等地区，这些地区难道现在经济蒸蒸日上，争相吸引小镇做题家最喜欢的科研人才（或许应该更加限制到码农这个“人才”分类），热烈拥抱左派思想，社会福利非常完善，只要过去了，烦恼全没了？这是哪个平行世界的“国外”

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2M 现金？以及为啥年终奖会有这么多

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你看错了，年终奖~60k

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我不怎么加班的现在。但是我工作没有年终，季度奖这些

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为什么除了 1 这个选项全是润学？
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从門到塬，润学一直是主旋律

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欧洲、日新等地区
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这些地区的生活不太方便适应。以新加坡为例，饭量小，支付不便，想润到这里的，想必倒也能接受吧。

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——發自我的手機

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这个很简单，把人简单分个类。

不想润没润的
不想润润了的
想润没润的
想润润了的
\nop 属于 3 类。每一个类别的人大概都觉得自己比别人聪明吧！

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