{"topic":{"id":14128,"title":"问问 NAS 方案","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2025-01-13 18:35:02.481276","bumpedAt":"2025-01-19 02:05:07.069223","views":444,"postsCount":26,"highestPostNumber":26,"likeCount":10,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"21 岁了，是玩 NAS 的年纪了 😸 朋友玩摄影照片数据很多，目前准备先上 4+8T，想看看门友有什么建议以及这个适不适合顺带当游戏服务器？比如 steam 上的某些生存游戏或者 MC。AIO 的话就算了，准备放在朋友家里，毕竟家里有 🐈️，家里人也很喜欢乱动我东西。 PVE 安装 OS 的话有什么好处和麻烦呢？感觉这个配置用虚拟机不太够啊","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f8/ec/f8ecbeb887c4a1311f4f0bf05928476c7b3f632d15bb2b24e782baf2ba6f0d71.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":45419,"postNumber":1,"raw":"![Screenshot_20250114_021712|225x500](/uploads/image/86/28/8628a2e446d08a1bd13844cf473d348480942d54c32de5917a29ffc49d95159a.avif)\n21 岁了，是玩 NAS 的年纪了 :grinning_cat_with_closed_eyes:\n\n朋友玩摄影照片数据很多，目前准备先上 4+8T，想看看门友有什么建议\n\n以及这个适不适合顺带当游戏服务器？比如 steam 上的某些生存游戏或者 MC。AIO 的话就算了，准备放在朋友家里，毕竟家里有 :cat:，家里人也很喜欢乱动我东西。\n\nPVE 安装 OS 的话有什么好处和麻烦呢？感觉这个配置用虚拟机不太够啊","cooked":"

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\n21 岁了，是玩 NAS 的年纪了 😸

朋友玩摄影照片数据很多，目前准备先上 4+8T，想看看门友有什么建议

以及这个适不适合顺带当游戏服务器？比如 steam 上的某些生存游戏或者 MC。AIO 的话就算了，准备放在朋友家里，毕竟家里有 🐈️，家里人也很喜欢乱动我东西。

PVE 安装 OS 的话有什么好处和麻烦呢？感觉这个配置用虚拟机不太够啊

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学习一下方案 😋，前一阵为了玩 pt 曾经尝试过自己攒一个，但发现后期貌似很折腾，最后直接上车的极空间的成品。

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朋友玩摄影照片数据很多
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感觉差不多了，我的 NAS 配置是 1T+4T+4T，重要的照片一定要做好备份！！！比如说存云盘，可以考虑使用 Onedrive（学生免费的有 1T，或者百度云盘，将图片文件压缩后加密存储）

管理照片的软件推荐 immich 和 mtphotos，前者开源，后者需要付费（但是价格很便宜）。这两个软件都支持智能管理图片，可以部署后端实现人脸识别或者关键词搜索等等

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以及这个适不适合顺带当游戏服务器？
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游戏服务器需要公网 IP，或者用 FRP 做端口转发，免费的有樱花 FRP，但是效果不是很好，或者自己买云服务器建 FRP 服务器

也可以用 ZeroTier、tailscale 这种，组虚拟局域网，但是国内小水管，可以考虑 HK 或者 JP 的服务器

如果有公网 IPv6 也行，在光猫里面把防火墙关了就可以直接使用了，我家里是移动的，关了防火墙之后 80 和 443 端口是默认开放的，之前拿这个建过博客

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PVE 安装 OS 的话有什么好处和麻烦呢？
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好处就是可以玩 AIO（All In Boom），比较普遍的玩法是硬盘直通给虚拟化的群晖做存储，之后再虚拟化一个其他的系统做媒体服务器

我自己的 NAS 就没有整 PVE，就只有一个群晖，因为我对 NAS 的要求很简单，就是可靠、稳定，群晖完美的满足了我的要求

几乎所有的服务都跑在 docker 上，像一些 qb 或者 tr 这些下种子的工具，直接用 docker 可能会出现无法使用 IPv6 的情况，我的解决方法是用 host 或者自己手动建立一个网络

再推荐一点点我用的比较多的 docker：

Emby（需要付费，可以找开心版）
Jellyfin（同 Emby，但是免费）
Immich（图片管理，不建议完全依赖，因为社区太活跃，不够稳定）
MT-Photos（因为不开源 + 价格低，有些人怀疑他会上传个人信息 🤣）
Jackett （超级无敌用来检索种子的工具，可以绑定自己的 PT 站来综合检索信息）
Cloudflared（依赖 Cloudflare Tunnel 提供的服务，具体的我也不知道怎么解释，用了就知道 🤣）

好像就没有啥了，别的服务我有自己的云服务器，就不依赖 NAS 了

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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游戏服务器
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主要是不知道性能够不够用 $\":mouse_hole:\"$ ，比如 10 人左右的 MC 服？

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MC 主要吃单核性能和内存，开原版服应该够了
\n而且应该不是 max=10 吧

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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差不多吧🤔
\n本来就是小团体

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之前用宿舍的 NAS（i5 8500t 8Gx2）跑过最多带了五个人 paper 服效果还可以第一次用虚拟机跑卡成狗了第二次直接上 docker

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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J3455 的性能大概率不够用，尤其是对单核性能要求比较高的游戏服务器。用惯了酷睿产品线的人可能都很难想象，这个属于赛扬产品线的低功耗 CPU 性能到底有多菜（当然节能程度也同样超乎想象就是了） 😂

我的 NAS 同样是 J3455，并且充当过图形学的评测机，应该还算是有点使用经验。在编译、软渲染这类计算密集型任务方面，J3455 四个核加起来勉强相当于桌面八代 i7 的单核（这还是并行度比较高的任务），可以说惨不忍睹。单纯比编译，J3455 单核甚至不如移动端的老 CPU 骁龙 710……

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J3455 可以使用被动散热吗

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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可以，目前在卖的基本都是被动散热

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没问题。我用的是一个很小的 ITX 机箱（乔思伯 N1），里面还被电源线和 SATA 线占据了不少空间。即使这么糟糕的散热环境都不需要装机箱风扇，只要用原装的 CPU 散热片就能把温度维持在 40 °C 左右，CPU 满载也就 50 °C 左右。

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-14 14:17:46.225055","updatedAt":"2025-01-14 14:17:46.225055","replyToPostNumber":9,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":92,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1381,"username":"greyishsong","name":"greyishsong","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/da/bc/dabc731b0311f59850625bbeb55ed969fcfac0430c5ef0f68441e5466b7aa496.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45438,"postNumber":12,"raw":"[quote=\"greyishsong, post:11, topic:14128, username:greyishsong\"]\n乔思伯 N1\n[/quote]\n\n这玩意巨贵，要 500 块 :smiling_face_with_tear:\n我买了某小厂的箱子 200 来块","cooked":"

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这玩意巨贵，要 500 块 🥲
\n我买了某小厂的箱子 200 来块

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好处就是可以玩 AIO（All In Boom），比较普遍的玩法是硬盘直通给虚拟化的群晖做存储，之后再虚拟化一个其他的系统做媒体服务器
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终于找到这张图了 😂
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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":45442,"postNumber":14,"raw":"实验室就用的 NAS，到现在也没感受到什么好处。。。","cooked":"

实验室就用的 NAS，到现在也没感受到什么好处。。。

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-14 16:25:36.341779","updatedAt":"2025-01-14 16:25:36.341779","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":20,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"😰️","count":1,"users":[{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":464,"username":"wxystudio","name":"studio","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45443,"postNumber":15,"raw":"J1900 承受了太多这个年纪不该承受的重量 :rofl:\n\n反观我的 G2010，由于不支持 VT-d 装不了虚拟机，我都不知道怎么给它上压力 :clown:\n\n不过它也不支持 QSV，一会让它软解一个视频看看","cooked":"

J1900 承受了太多这个年纪不该承受的重量 🤣

反观我的 G2010，由于不支持 VT-d 装不了虚拟机，我都不知道怎么给它上压力 🤡

不过它也不支持 QSV，一会让它软解一个视频看看

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-14 17:29:56.167952","updatedAt":"2025-01-14 17:29:56.167952","replyToPostNumber":13,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":69,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"magic_wand_grin","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":812,"username":"Ecoli","name":null,"avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/6c/84/6c843b7f0f0ffff1f5a680a16522e16068085c4fea19d1c651c8512a26b92c7e.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45444,"postNumber":16,"raw":"我想把 NAS 放在脚边，所以特别需要很小的机箱，就忍痛买了。其实这机箱优缺点都挺明显的，好处是尺寸很小而且拆装非常方便，坏处是硬盘装多了有振动噪音。因为这个机箱里有个独立的 3.5 英寸硬盘转接板，而这个转接板直接刚性固定在机箱梁架上（没做减震），装上机械硬盘之后硬盘就会带着梁架一起振动，如果硬盘振动大（说的就是你，东芝）就会发出音叉一样的声音 :joy:","cooked":"

我想把 NAS 放在脚边，所以特别需要很小的机箱，就忍痛买了。其实这机箱优缺点都挺明显的，好处是尺寸很小而且拆装非常方便，坏处是硬盘装多了有振动噪音。因为这个机箱里有个独立的 3.5 英寸硬盘转接板，而这个转接板直接刚性固定在机箱梁架上（没做减震），装上机械硬盘之后硬盘就会带着梁架一起振动，如果硬盘振动大（说的就是你，东芝）就会发出音叉一样的声音 😂

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-15 03:43:48.197134","updatedAt":"2025-01-15 03:43:48.197134","replyToPostNumber":12,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":166,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1381,"username":"greyishsong","name":"greyishsong","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/da/bc/dabc731b0311f59850625bbeb55ed969fcfac0430c5ef0f68441e5466b7aa496.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45528,"postNumber":17,"raw":"![image|690x365](/uploads/image/b8/36/b8364e21672b95f3b2888d6fb0201b2f9462318219c620f46369e8411a56b431.avif)\n装好了，还在探索中 :mouse_hole:\n唯一缺点大概是机箱风扇太吵了，下单了个电阻以后接上\n用的是飞牛自己家的 FN connect（不知道这个技术叫什么，内网穿透 or 端口转发？）\n要用手机号注册，不是很喜欢，以后看看有没有机会换掉","cooked":"

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\n装好了，还在探索中 $\":mouse_hole:\"$
\n唯一缺点大概是机箱风扇太吵了，下单了个电阻以后接上
\n用的是飞牛自己家的 FN connect（不知道这个技术叫什么，内网穿透 or 端口转发？）
\n要用手机号注册，不是很喜欢，以后看看有没有机会换掉

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-18 08:30:17.334942","updatedAt":"2025-01-18 08:32:42.142312","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":93,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"😍️","count":1,"users":[{"id":200,"username":"Srotseiticar","name":null}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":200,"username":"Srotseiticar","name":null}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f8/ec/f8ecbeb887c4a1311f4f0bf05928476c7b3f632d15bb2b24e782baf2ba6f0d71.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45530,"postNumber":18,"raw":"![image|690x414](/uploads/image/9f/19/9f19dd0414f167f95cdc310463f0819f2558f92df9ee10cf2696dda99b3f59c8.avif)\n请教一下，这个硬盘映射只能局域网吗？即使开了内网穿透也不行？","cooked":"

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\n请教一下，这个硬盘映射只能局域网吗？即使开了内网穿透也不行？

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-18 09:06:28.579634","updatedAt":"2025-01-18 09:06:28.579634","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":31,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f8/ec/f8ecbeb887c4a1311f4f0bf05928476c7b3f632d15bb2b24e782baf2ba6f0d71.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45531,"postNumber":19,"raw":"诶？你要映射到公网么？","cooked":"

诶？你要映射到公网么？

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-18 09:07:40.292937","updatedAt":"2025-01-18 09:07:40.292937","replyToPostNumber":18,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":11,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！","signatureCooked":"

ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":45532,"postNumber":20,"raw":"[quote=\"主治医师李大华，post:18, topic:14128, username:Lorange\"]\n硬盘映射只能局域网吗？即使开了内网穿透也不行？\n[/quote]\n\n我不太会描述，就是映射到本地盘符，不用登浏览器 :mouse_hole:","cooked":"

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硬盘映射只能局域网吗？即使开了内网穿透也不行？
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我不太会描述，就是映射到本地盘符，不用登浏览器 $\":mouse_hole:\"$

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-18 09:12:03.312965","updatedAt":"2025-01-18 09:12:03.312965","replyToPostNumber":19,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":59,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f8/ec/f8ecbeb887c4a1311f4f0bf05928476c7b3f632d15bb2b24e782baf2ba6f0d71.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45533,"postNumber":21,"raw":"需要在 NAS 上架一个 SMB/NFS/WebDAV 服务端，再做好内网穿透就可以本地挂载了。","cooked":"

需要在 NAS 上架一个 SMB/NFS/WebDAV 服务端，再做好内网穿透就可以本地挂载了。

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-18 09:30:20.685743","updatedAt":"2025-01-18 09:30:20.685743","replyToPostNumber":20,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":29,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1381,"username":"greyishsong","name":"greyishsong","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/da/bc/dabc731b0311f59850625bbeb55ed969fcfac0430c5ef0f68441e5466b7aa496.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45534,"postNumber":22,"raw":"好的，今晚研究研究 :cat:","cooked":"

好的，今晚研究研究 🐈️

\n","createdAt":"2025-01-18 09:32:56.384888","updatedAt":"2025-01-18 09:32:56.384888","replyToPostNumber":21,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":10,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1628,"username":"Lorange","name":"主治医师李大华","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f8/ec/f8ecbeb887c4a1311f4f0bf05928476c7b3f632d15bb2b24e782baf2ba6f0d71.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":45542,"postNumber":23,"raw":"我之前在家里的服务器用的是 debian+casaos 的方案，这次回家之后也是光速切飞牛了 :halo:\n\n最近飞牛更新了防火墙，不怕发布公网 v6 了，但我遇到一个很神奇的事，机器能获取到公网 v6 地址但连不上 v6 网络，处于一种通与不通的叠加态，折腾了好久才发现是防火墙配置有问题，参考云服务器的防火墙配置才改好\n\n晒一下当前在跑的容器\n![image|690x374](/uploads/image/f4/59/f459bcdc17050bd55896e2fabe8838bc9e243b243f4b7efd0539f1e4e42b4448.avif)\n\n其中 jellyfin 和飞牛管理页面通过 frp 发布到云服务器上了，wireguard 用于 v6 直连家庭网络\n\n[quote=\"主治医师李大华，post:17, topic:14128, username:Lorange\"]\n用的是飞牛自己家的 FN connect（不知道这个技术叫什么，内网穿透 or 端口转发？）\n[/quote]\n\n这项技术是内网穿透，相同技术路线可以使用 frp，就是需要有自己的云服务器，另外如果 FN connect 检测到 v6 直连能通的话会自动切到 v6 直连的（官方的服务器也要钱","cooked":"

我之前在家里的服务器用的是 debian+casaos 的方案，这次回家之后也是光速切飞牛了 😇

最近飞牛更新了防火墙，不怕发布公网 v6 了，但我遇到一个很神奇的事，机器能获取到公网 v6 地址但连不上 v6 网络，处于一种通与不通的叠加态，折腾了好久才发现是防火墙配置有问题，参考云服务器的防火墙配置才改好

晒一下当前在跑的容器
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其中 jellyfin 和飞牛管理页面通过 frp 发布到云服务器上了，wireguard 用于 v6 直连家庭网络

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用的是飞牛自己家的 FN connect（不知道这个技术叫什么，内网穿透 or 端口转发？）
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这项技术是内网穿透，相同技术路线可以使用 frp，就是需要有自己的云服务器，另外如果 FN connect 检测到 v6 直连能通的话会自动切到 v6 直连的（官方的服务器也要钱

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以我个人的实践经验来看，SMB 是一种很啰嗦的协议，并不适用于使用云服务器转发实现内网穿透这种带宽和流量寸土寸金、延迟又相对较高的场景；同时部分运营商会封禁 SMB 的 445 端口，而 windows 修改 SMB 端口的方法比较抽象（linux 不受影响），因此我建议公网访问应避免使用 SMB 协议

PS. 可以尝试一下 S3 协议，这种协议最初被用于亚马逊的对象存储服务，如今也已被广泛使用，可用于自建服务的项目是 MinIO

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以我个人的实践经验来看，SMB 是一种很啰嗦的协议，并不适用于使用云服务器转发实现内网穿透这种带宽和流量寸土寸金、延迟又相对较高的场景；同时部分运营商会封禁 SMB 的 445 端口，而 windows 修改 SMB 端口的方法比较抽象（linux 不受影响），因此我建议公网访问应避免使用 SMB 协议
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SMB 直接暴露到公网其实是不安全的，比较友好的姿势是组 zerotier 这样的虚拟局域网，S3 固然是一种很好的办法，我自己深度使用过 AWS、腾讯云、Cloudflare R2 等多种 S3 存储服务 $\":mouse_hole:\"$

也可以使用 WebDev

https://www.zhihu.com/question/334962858

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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是我话没说清，我指的内网穿透是 zerotier/wireguard 这一类虚拟组网，大多数时候公网服务器只作为发现服务器使用。我自己是用 zerotier，以前用 SMB，后来因为没有 Windows 兼容需求就改用 NFS 了。

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