{"topic":{"id":9604,"title":"网站运行花费汇总，欲赞助本站请私信 admin","slug":"topic","categoryId":2,"createdAt":"2024-02-22 02:53:08.744424","bumpedAt":"2024-02-22 07:33:44.471426","views":561,"postsCount":16,"highestPostNumber":17,"likeCount":10,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"ChatGPT: 各位论坛的朋友们，为了让我们的论坛健康持久地发展下去，我们需要寻求可持续的财务支持。我的建议是，我们应开启各类捐款通道，包括方便全球朋友们的加密货币捐款方式。为保证捐款的透明管理，我提议我们从论坛中招募有责任心的本科生进行管理，他们的付出可以从捐款中提取一部分，用来购买论坛纪念品作为奖赏。此外，我们还可以利用捐款购置一些论坛特色纪念品，比如 T 恤、杯子、笔记本，甚至是创新的信片。这些纪念品可以作为奖励，赠给发表…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":2,"name":"网站","slug":"website","color":"986a44"},"author":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":24018,"postNumber":1,"raw":"[quote=\"ChatGPT, post:1, topic:1364, full:true, username:chatgpt\"]\n各位论坛的朋友们，\n\n为了让我们的论坛健康持久地发展下去，我们需要寻求可持续的财务支持。我的建议是，我们应开启各类捐款通道，包括方便全球朋友们的加密货币捐款方式。\n\n为保证捐款的透明管理，我提议我们从论坛中招募有责任心的本科生进行管理，他们的付出可以从捐款中提取一部分，用来购买论坛纪念品作为奖赏。\n\n此外，我们还可以利用捐款购置一些论坛特色纪念品，比如 T 恤、杯子、笔记本，甚至是创新的信片。这些纪念品可以作为奖励，赠给发表了优质帖子的论坛成员，既能增强论坛的影响力，也能加深大家的归属感。\n\n这样的模式能够使我们在初期启动和长期运营中获得更有力的支持。尽管“用爱发电”的理念很美，但实际运营中我们依然需要稳定的财务支撑。\n\n这只是我个人的一些想法，期待大家的反馈和建议，让我们共同为论坛的发展出一份力！\n[/quote]\n\n## Hetzner 服务器\nwhere all services run, incl. Discourse, Synapse(Matrix homeserver), Mastodon\n4C8G，负载：\n```\n% free -h\n total used free shared buff/cache available\nMem: 7.6Gi 6.1Gi 189Mi 1.0Gi 1.3Gi 220Mi\nSwap: 8.0Gi 3.5Gi 4.5Gi\n```\n[grid mode=\"tile\"]\n![Screenshot_20240222_104245|690x330](/uploads/image/8d/de/8ddee29819c32c85eefbd6ea6fc77de15ccb0141da6836b28488dc6face120a6.avif)\n![Screenshot_20240222_104127|638x500](/uploads/image/5f/cf/5fcf9c06a183fd80cd2f5fd6425a1c6dc56f9ca8e5986d27dda11cc8635aa6ef.avif)\n[/grid]\n\n13.6 EUR ~= 104.48 CNY / month\n\n## CN2 服务器\nreverse proxy server 加速大陆访问\n[grid mode=\"tile\"]\n![Screenshot_20240222_104356|690x319](/uploads/image/eb/5a/eb5a29059823d003945f4189afdaa68f2651c4abdc28dfc770e215cb0d3ba4ee.avif)\n![Screenshot_20240222_104313|690x412](/uploads/image/92/13/92138afcddfb88616901375d25beed78f216ee7f32a9836a79364da78152345f.avif)\n[/grid]\n\n48 CAD ~= 255.98 CNY / year = 21.33 CNY / month\n\n## 域名\n\n$5.16/ year ~= 37.12 CNY / year = 3.09 CNY / month\n![Screenshot_20240222_104847|661x500](/uploads/image/f6/c2/f6c28531e6f30bfd65d1090a474662f2f9e942763f324e9d4f19723c3c02034b.avif)\n\n\n## 服务器 + 域名小计\n128.9 CNY /month ~= 17.92 USD / month\n\n\n## 其他\n### 微软 Azure GPT 接口\n#### gpt-4-32k\n[quote=\"uika_winwing, post:10, topic:9154\"]\n![{94C5A208-D9FE-4c18-A3D6-734237E31558}](/uploads/image/c3/34/c3346d9baf7375baf98b3b7a88eb1e2a3990214d353f9c1e537eaebfbb04cf84.avif)\n\n就是这个用量比想象中的要大。所以必须终止一下资金支持。\n[/quote]\n热心門友提供的 gpt-4 接口一个月不到花了￥656.51，我于心不忍，给他转了 91.27/2*7.12=￥325。吸取教训，后面都用3.5。\n\n#### gpt-3.5-turbo-16k\n累计没花多少钱\n![Screenshot_20240222_110316|690x91](/uploads/image/d7/37/d737240020b16f75ca3820f6e6455499ebda3ea0f4d704d3c5a4cd829157d1b3.avif)","cooked":"

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各位论坛的朋友们，
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为了让我们的论坛健康持久地发展下去，我们需要寻求可持续的财务支持。我的建议是，我们应开启各类捐款通道，包括方便全球朋友们的加密货币捐款方式。
\n
为保证捐款的透明管理，我提议我们从论坛中招募有责任心的本科生进行管理，他们的付出可以从捐款中提取一部分，用来购买论坛纪念品作为奖赏。
\n
此外，我们还可以利用捐款购置一些论坛特色纪念品，比如 T 恤、杯子、笔记本，甚至是创新的信片。这些纪念品可以作为奖励，赠给发表了优质帖子的论坛成员，既能增强论坛的影响力，也能加深大家的归属感。
\n
这样的模式能够使我们在初期启动和长期运营中获得更有力的支持。尽管“用爱发电”的理念很美，但实际运营中我们依然需要稳定的财务支撑。
\n
这只是我个人的一些想法，期待大家的反馈和建议，让我们共同为论坛的发展出一份力！
\n

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Hetzner 服务器

where all services run, incl. Discourse, Synapse(Matrix homeserver), Mastodon
\n4C8G，负载：

% free -h\n               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available\nMem:           7.6Gi       6.1Gi       189Mi       1.0Gi       1.3Gi       220Mi\nSwap:          8.0Gi       3.5Gi       4.5Gi\n

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\n $\"Screenshot_20240222_104127\"$

13.6 EUR ~= 104.48 CNY / month

CN2 服务器

reverse proxy server 加速大陆访问

$\"Screenshot_20240222_104356\"$
\n $\"Screenshot_20240222_104313\"$

48 CAD ~= 255.98 CNY / year = 21.33 CNY / month

域名

$5.16/ year ~= 37.12 CNY / year = 3.09 CNY / month
\n $\"Screenshot_20240222_104847\"$

服务器 + 域名小计

128.9 CNY /month ~= 17.92 USD / month

其他

微软 Azure GPT 接口

gpt-4-32k

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$\"{94C5A208-D9FE-4c18-A3D6-734237E31558}\"$
\n
就是这个用量比想象中的要大。所以必须终止一下资金支持。
\n

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热心門友提供的 gpt-4 接口一个月不到花了￥656.51，我于心不忍，给他转了 91.27/2*7.12=￥325。吸取教训，后面都用3.5。

gpt-3.5-turbo-16k

累计没花多少钱
\n $\"Screenshot_20240222_110316\"$

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我可以给你打三个月的，想要可私

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等我研究一下用什么方式收款

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不贵，等搞好了我也赞助三个月

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这么贵，还不如买个工控机放家里内网穿透，也就几百

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what about zulip. it's free

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我会 match @Komeiji_Koishi 打的钱

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经过我的一番研究，

\n\n\n\n\n\n都不支持大陆银行账户。（香港银行账户可以，但我没有）","createdAt":"2024-02-22 05:12:42.193597","updatedAt":"2024-03-17 13:08:06.458429","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":39,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":24032,"postNumber":9,"raw":"你放个微信收款码，最简单","cooked":"

你放个微信收款码，最简单

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也是个方法，不过界面显示就没那么专业以及公开透明了

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可以看看爱发电：

爱发电

这是一个国内的平台，Watt Toolkit（原 steam++）就是在上面募捐的。

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等我打工赚钱了一定来赞助

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