{"topic":{"id":4002,"title":"感觉适应不了大学的考试模式/想问问理科和工科的区别","slug":"topic","categoryId":14,"createdAt":"2023-07-12 02:47:48.369629","bumpedAt":"2024-09-17 05:52:52.091903","views":1304,"postsCount":31,"highestPostNumber":31,"likeCount":23,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"高中是竞赛生，（一次省一 + 一个铜 + 两个省二）当时想学理科，但是因为高考没考好 + 政策突变，差不多分数的学校都是工科学校。所以报了工科。大一的时候高数大物学的都不错，感觉理科和工科没什么区别，所以没申请转专业。到了大二的数理方程让我第一次感到反感，感觉书上的推导非常不严谨，课也听不懂，问了以前考了 90+ 的学长，他说基本没人能听懂，考试就是把固定的解题模板背下来套。到了大二下，上了专业课以后，发现考试有很多背诵记忆，文字填空，…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":14,"name":"问答","slug":"qa","color":"f5c211"},"author":{"id":680,"username":"anonymous31","name":"anonymous31","avatarUrl":null},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":6663,"postNumber":1,"raw":"高中是竞赛生，（一次省一 + 一个铜 + 两个省二）当时想学理科，但是因为高考没考好 + 政策突变，差不多分数的学校都是工科学校。所以报了工科。大一的时候高数大物学的都不错，感觉理科和工科没什么区别，所以没申请转专业。到了大二的数理方程让我第一次感到反感，感觉书上的推导非常不严谨，课也听不懂，问了以前考了 90+ 的学长，他说基本没人能听懂，考试就是把固定的解题模板背下来套。到了大二下，上了专业课以后，发现考试有很多背诵记忆，文字填空，名词解释这一类的内容，有的课需要强行记忆不能理解也不知道为什么如此的公式然后套，这让我非常反感。感觉自己学习方面最强的应该是应用能力，弱点在记忆力和细节，记着大学前，数学物理的考试只要出题难我就能考前几，出题简单的时候我成绩排名就不高，因为简单题我容易扣过程分 + 粗心。但是大二以后感觉有时候自己想推公式，真正学懂一门课，然后花费了很多时间却感觉没有真正学懂，考试也考不过直接记忆作业题和往年题的人。我想发帖问一下\n1：是我们专业比较新，交叉了很多专业的课程，导致深度不够，只能考这些，还是工科就是如此？（我们有很多削课时的速成课）\n2：转专业去数学或者物理已经来不及了（我看教务处只收大一的），同时也对自己能不能胜任基础学科表示怀疑，如果不能跨到理科，有没有理论偏多，推导偏多的可以跨考或跨保的工科专业推荐？","cooked":"

高中是竞赛生，（一次省一 + 一个铜 + 两个省二）当时想学理科，但是因为高考没考好 + 政策突变，差不多分数的学校都是工科学校。所以报了工科。大一的时候高数大物学的都不错，感觉理科和工科没什么区别，所以没申请转专业。到了大二的数理方程让我第一次感到反感，感觉书上的推导非常不严谨，课也听不懂，问了以前考了 90+ 的学长，他说基本没人能听懂，考试就是把固定的解题模板背下来套。到了大二下，上了专业课以后，发现考试有很多背诵记忆，文字填空，名词解释这一类的内容，有的课需要强行记忆不能理解也不知道为什么如此的公式然后套，这让我非常反感。感觉自己学习方面最强的应该是应用能力，弱点在记忆力和细节，记着大学前，数学物理的考试只要出题难我就能考前几，出题简单的时候我成绩排名就不高，因为简单题我容易扣过程分 + 粗心。但是大二以后感觉有时候自己想推公式，真正学懂一门课，然后花费了很多时间却感觉没有真正学懂，考试也考不过直接记忆作业题和往年题的人。我想发帖问一下
\n1：是我们专业比较新，交叉了很多专业的课程，导致深度不够，只能考这些，还是工科就是如此？（我们有很多削课时的速成课）
\n2：转专业去数学或者物理已经来不及了（我看教务处只收大一的），同时也对自己能不能胜任基础学科表示怀疑，如果不能跨到理科，有没有理论偏多，推导偏多的可以跨考或跨保的工科专业推荐？

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-12 02:47:48.534045","updatedAt":"2023-09-09 08:04:01.38712","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":557,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":2,"publicVersion":2,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":680,"username":"anonymous31","name":"anonymous31","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":6669,"postNumber":2,"raw":"你的感受我能理解。现在你遇到的困境，可能并非理科或工科的本质差异，也并非你的个人问题，而更多可能是某些课程设置的问题。在你所描述的情况下，看起来像是你们的课程体系过于新颖且交叉，所以在深度上可能有所欠缺，也让许多课程变成了速成课。这使得在这样的学习模式下，学生们可能更倾向于通过套用模板和刷题来应对考试，而非真正理解并掌握课程的内容。但这并不意味着这些课程本质上就不好，或者不能更深入、严谨地进行学习。\n\n同时，我想提醒你，大学学习的目标不仅仅在于应对考试。更重要的是，它应该帮助你找到你未来想要投身的领域，发现你的兴趣所在。你描述的问题主要集中在课堂和考试，那么你有没有思考过你长期的目标，或者你想在哪个领域发展？你希望寻找理论偏多的专业，是因为你更享受深入理论和公式推导的过程，还是因为你想成为一名更优秀的做题家，考试大师？\n\n另外，大学的一个重要意义在于它提供了尝试不同方向的机会。你可以尝试参与各种实验和项目，也可以尝试在业界实习，看看实际工作中要解决的问题是否是你感兴趣的。\n\n对于你想要转向更加理论性的基础学科，我想提醒你，这是一个很有挑战性的决定。纯理论的基础学科竞争很激烈，而且可能在完成学业后，大多数人并不能解决任何实际问题。我了解到很多进入集训队的学生最后选择了转行。对于像你这样有竞赛经历但并未获得金银牌的学生，可能需要更深入地思考这个决定。\n\n总的来说，你现在面临的选择并不容易，但请记住，学习的最终目标是为了找到你真正热爱并愿意投入时间和精力的领域。我相信，只要你按照自己的兴趣和目标去选择，你会找到最适合你的道路。","cooked":"

你的感受我能理解。现在你遇到的困境，可能并非理科或工科的本质差异，也并非你的个人问题，而更多可能是某些课程设置的问题。在你所描述的情况下，看起来像是你们的课程体系过于新颖且交叉，所以在深度上可能有所欠缺，也让许多课程变成了速成课。这使得在这样的学习模式下，学生们可能更倾向于通过套用模板和刷题来应对考试，而非真正理解并掌握课程的内容。但这并不意味着这些课程本质上就不好，或者不能更深入、严谨地进行学习。

同时，我想提醒你，大学学习的目标不仅仅在于应对考试。更重要的是，它应该帮助你找到你未来想要投身的领域，发现你的兴趣所在。你描述的问题主要集中在课堂和考试，那么你有没有思考过你长期的目标，或者你想在哪个领域发展？你希望寻找理论偏多的专业，是因为你更享受深入理论和公式推导的过程，还是因为你想成为一名更优秀的做题家，考试大师？

另外，大学的一个重要意义在于它提供了尝试不同方向的机会。你可以尝试参与各种实验和项目，也可以尝试在业界实习，看看实际工作中要解决的问题是否是你感兴趣的。

对于你想要转向更加理论性的基础学科，我想提醒你，这是一个很有挑战性的决定。纯理论的基础学科竞争很激烈，而且可能在完成学业后，大多数人并不能解决任何实际问题。我了解到很多进入集训队的学生最后选择了转行。对于像你这样有竞赛经历但并未获得金银牌的学生，可能需要更深入地思考这个决定。

总的来说，你现在面临的选择并不容易，但请记住，学习的最终目标是为了找到你真正热爱并愿意投入时间和精力的领域。我相信，只要你按照自己的兴趣和目标去选择，你会找到最适合你的道路。

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一般来说，工科确实会比理科更不纠结其复杂原理而是偏重于引用，甚至工程上会有大量的近似，误差不超过 $5\\%$ （甚至是 $10\\%$ ）都可以认为问题不大

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发现考试有很多背诵记忆，文字填空，名词解释这一类的内容
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这到不是理科和工科的区别，这是纯纯糟粕

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转专业去数学或者物理已经来不及了
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如果你确实想转，还来得及的，大二是转专业最后的机会

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想转理论偏多的也有一部分原因是做了一个本专业相关的大创，需要进化学实验室，（手套箱，通风橱操作）发现自己的动手能力偏弱（也分方面，可以胜任 sw 建模和写代码这类“需要实践，但不需要手巧”的操作，但做实验这种对细节要求很高，复现性很差的东西就做的不好）

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-12 03:31:08.344956","updatedAt":"2023-07-12 03:31:08.344956","replyToPostNumber":2,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":122,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":680,"username":"anonymous31","name":"anonymous31","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":6679,"postNumber":7,"raw":"感觉总体上就是要多尝试。不是说转到数学或者物理专业问题就自动解决了。课程问题可能主要是你交教的不行，解决方案可能就是考前刷刷题把考试考了，别太上心。主要靠自己。","cooked":"

感觉总体上就是要多尝试。不是说转到数学或者物理专业问题就自动解决了。课程问题可能主要是你交教的不行，解决方案可能就是考前刷刷题把考试考了，别太上心。主要靠自己。

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数学物理方程是我少数考 99 分的课程，然而最近看到解 PDE 的 spectral methods，回忆以前却没有学到。不禁感慨为了应试而学习的都是垃圾，只有少数自己有兴趣自学去花时间推导的才是内化了的知识。

大学里的考试应付应付得了，浪费时间又没什么收获，不喜欢的课 70 分万岁，喜欢的课考多少分无所谓，偏科的人比门门 90+ 的做题家更有用，因为后者不知道自己真正喜欢什么

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我考数学物理方程之前啥也不会，考前狂刷一通，最后也考了 97。理论部分也没咋好好学。考大物前一天我还不知道啥是光栅，然后下午五点开始刷题。第二天早上八点考试，考了 98。当然我不好好学习是我不对，但是可能不要太上心文化课在干啥

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哇怎么做到的，直接记题吗

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就通过做往年试卷，学会题目的做法，通过试卷找到什么内容是可以出题考的学一学。剩下的不会考。

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我是数学类的，我们专业课一般都找不到往年题，手上只有课后题，工程量也蛮大

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数学物理方程也是我最高的一门，靠的就是刷题。

作为一个工科生，我觉得我的数理基础烂的吓人，现在让我求个积分都求不出来了，大多数时候都是现学现用。但我也觉得，数理基础好的同学在工科会更有优势，因为工科也常常需要求解一些问题，数理基础好的同学往往可以迅速找到方法

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朋友你刷的什么题？课后题吗

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-12 08:46:35.015233","updatedAt":"2023-07-12 08:46:35.015233","replyToPostNumber":13,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":13,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":642,"username":"anonymous26","name":"anonymous26","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":6730,"postNumber":15,"raw":"咋描述都这么模糊啊。。。。工科里还有 114514 个专业呢，每个专业情况都不相同。贴主连个具体专业名都不说得到的只能是一些泛泛而谈没有营养的回复","cooked":"

咋描述都这么模糊啊。。。。工科里还有 114514 个专业呢，每个专业情况都不相同。贴主连个具体专业名都不说得到的只能是一些泛泛而谈没有营养的回复

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-12 08:48:06.598101","updatedAt":"2023-07-12 08:48:06.598101","replyToPostNumber":1,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":63,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":426,"username":"Komeiji_Koishi","name":"Komeiji_Koishi","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/5c/54/5c54227268cd2f275501ca5efdf88f7b1083908db846496c2c46eeb38cf65caa.avif","admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":6791,"postNumber":16,"raw":"专业说太细了就开盒了。不过可以提供一部分信息是 40h 速成 c++ 和数据结构。好多课都是这种","cooked":"

专业说太细了就开盒了。不过可以提供一部分信息是 40h 速成 c++ 和数据结构。好多课都是这种

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我只能给一些浅薄的理解和建议：

1.首先你反复强调自己擅长“严密的推导”，绝大多数工科都有非常理论的方向，但是在“严密”方面都比较欠缺，毕竟工科主要目的是应用。甚至物理都有一些推导在数学上 emmm，数学也有统计这种不那么“严密”的方向。我建议你可以尝试一下本专业的偏理论方向，看看自己是否能接受工科的“理论”。比如进入一个实验室读读论文，推推公式。

2.西交的课程和考试质量不一定真的能反映这门学科的真实面貌，如果你怀疑是自己真的不适合学这门专业，还是说由于西交课太烂的问题无法使你学懂，你可以尝试在网上学习一些国外名校的课程，看看是否能学得更明白或者激发出兴趣。

3.唯一的顾虑是时间，你开学大三，如果花太多时间在这些探索上，可能会耽误之后的事情，比如转专业，考研，工作等等。但是我觉得这也是没办法的事情，毕竟你已经大三了，如果在自己不感兴趣的专业强行学下去，意义不大。最重要的是想清楚自己要干什么，这比考研/工作重要得多，大学总的来说还是可以用来试错的，成本也比较低。所以我个人认为花一学期/一年来探索是非常必要的。

4.你可以思考一下，人是否应该做自己擅长的工作？还是自己感兴趣的工作？（这两者并不等价）如果感兴趣和擅长的工作并不能维持生计，你是否还会坚持去做？如果你现在选择理科是因为你擅长，那到了某一阶段你被其他人碾压（大多数人迟早会在某一阶段被同辈碾压，不太可能永远是最屌的），你是否还会觉得自己应该做这个工作？也就是说，你选择理科是因为你“考试只要出题难我就能考前几”，还是真的喜欢理科？这些问题我自己都没有想明白，不过我建议你想想，对你的选择会比较有帮助

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说太细了就开盒了，不过可以提供的信息是有 40h 速成数据结构和 c++ 40h 速成数电 + 模电这种课。

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没有区别，都找不到工作

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我和你有一样的想法，以致都毕业了我还在想如果当年我报考了数试是不是会更好。
\n我认为工科的内容一言蔽之就是大炼钢铁。通过观察观测，“炼”出来了一个经验公式，就这么用。
\n所以喜欢理科的理科生还是不要涉足工科了，理科是浪漫的，工科是枯燥的。理科是艺术，工科是生活。
\n即使为了要吃饭，硕士再转金融，再转计算机，不好么？起码我有浪漫的本科四年，不会有老师指着课本跟我说：你抠的这么细干啥，能用就行。

至于专业推荐，理论偏多的是控制。控制理论、系统工程的开山鼻祖都是数学家。
\n或者人工智能，不过交大人工智能理论做的最好的是数统学院下的院士团队。

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即使美国先进的工科院系，也一样有一堆不严谨的近似、经验公式，我觉得这是工科的本质特性。

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你现在在学啥

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我已经毕业了

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是这样的。其实不用说工科了，即便是理论物理对待数学也是这种态度，只能说不同学科有不同学科的特点，有自己关心的问题和思考问题的角度，学科外部的东西大多是当黑箱处理。

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羡慕能速成

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再挑灯火读文章 💡 📖 🧐

\n"}},{"id":21856,"postNumber":26,"raw":"[quote=\"studio, post:17, topic:4002, username:wxystudio\"]\n你可以思考一下，人是否应该做自己擅长的工作？还是自己感兴趣的工作？（这两者并不等价）如果感兴趣和擅长的工作并不能维持生计，你是否还会坚持去做？如果你现在选择理科是因为你擅长，那到了某一阶段你被其他人碾压（大多数人迟早会在某一阶段被同辈碾压，不太可能永远是最屌的），你是否还会觉得自己应该做这个工作？也就是说，你选择理科是因为你“考试只要出题难我就能考前几”，还是真的喜欢理科？这些问题我自己都没有想明白，不过我建议你想想，对你的选择会比较有帮助\n[/quote]\n\n除非刚好喜欢的是热门专业，否则谁想得明白呢","cooked":"

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你可以思考一下，人是否应该做自己擅长的工作？还是自己感兴趣的工作？（这两者并不等价）如果感兴趣和擅长的工作并不能维持生计，你是否还会坚持去做？如果你现在选择理科是因为你擅长，那到了某一阶段你被其他人碾压（大多数人迟早会在某一阶段被同辈碾压，不太可能永远是最屌的），你是否还会觉得自己应该做这个工作？也就是说，你选择理科是因为你“考试只要出题难我就能考前几”，还是真的喜欢理科？这些问题我自己都没有想明白，不过我建议你想想，对你的选择会比较有帮助
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除非刚好喜欢的是热门专业，否则谁想得明白呢

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学辅群不能找到往年数学类的题么

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好像是从 22 还是 23 才开始有人整理，22 之前是肯定没有的。。

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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除了学辅群还有哪能看到这些题，我把学辅给退了 🥲

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如果你说的是数学专业往年题，我看💰学辅好像已经有人在整理了，或者你问一下直系学长学姐，他们手里可能有一些上古卷子。
\n大部分公共课的往年题好像各个学粉群里就有，专业课我就不清楚了

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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你可以思考一下，人是否应该做自己擅长的工作？还是自己感兴趣的工作？
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\n\n“其实人往往最后喜爱的东西，一定是，自己更容易获得正反馈的东西”","createdAt":"2024-09-17 05:52:52.091903","updatedAt":"2024-09-17 05:52:52.091903","replyToPostNumber":26,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":70,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5837,"username":"anon77025879","name":null}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！","signatureCooked":"

ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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