{"topic":{"id":1600,"title":"大一分流，网安和计算机","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2023-07-03 01:54:53.421925","bumpedAt":"2023-07-09 14:59:31.841309","views":1298,"postsCount":33,"highestPostNumber":34,"likeCount":27,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"我原本想去计算机，但最近又觉得网安好像要比计算机好。有没有学长可以给点建议？😢 我主要有几方面的考虑。一是本科是否是 cs 科班出身，毕竟本科 cs 的选择面应该要比网安更广吧？二是教学计划，西交的 cs 课程是真太逆天了，都不知道学这些有个啥用，但是总得忍着恶心冲学分绩吧，这点让人难受。而网安的课程好像要比 cs 好一些。三是卷度，网安是第一年招生，没有往年数据，但我觉得网安应该要比计算机轻松一些，毕竟小专业嘛。四是外保，最起码我目…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":259,"username":"ReturnDream","name":"保密","avatarUrl":null},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":3788,"postNumber":1,"raw":"我原本想去计算机，但最近又觉得网安好像要比计算机好。有没有学长可以给点建议？😢\n我主要有几方面的考虑。一是本科是否是 cs 科班出身，毕竟本科 cs 的选择面应该要比网安更广吧？二是教学计划，西交的 cs 课程是真太逆天了，都不知道学这些有个啥用，但是总得忍着恶心冲学分绩吧，这点让人难受。而网安的课程好像要比 cs 好一些。三是卷度，网安是第一年招生，没有往年数据，但我觉得网安应该要比计算机轻松一些，毕竟小专业嘛。四是外保，最起码我目前还是不太想在西交读研的，而 cs 外保难度不低，怕成绩够不到。结合医电的保研人中有 50% 保外的比例，我觉得网安往外走会不会也容易些？\n以上。😖","cooked":"

我原本想去计算机，但最近又觉得网安好像要比计算机好。有没有学长可以给点建议？😢
\n我主要有几方面的考虑。一是本科是否是 cs 科班出身，毕竟本科 cs 的选择面应该要比网安更广吧？二是教学计划，西交的 cs 课程是真太逆天了，都不知道学这些有个啥用，但是总得忍着恶心冲学分绩吧，这点让人难受。而网安的课程好像要比 cs 好一些。三是卷度，网安是第一年招生，没有往年数据，但我觉得网安应该要比计算机轻松一些，毕竟小专业嘛。四是外保，最起码我目前还是不太想在西交读研的，而 cs 外保难度不低，怕成绩够不到。结合医电的保研人中有 50% 保外的比例，我觉得网安往外走会不会也容易些？
\n以上。😖

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-03 01:54:53.560216","updatedAt":"2023-07-03 01:55:53.295427","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":270,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":376,"username":"Phoenix","name":null}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":259,"username":"ReturnDream","name":"保密","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3789,"postNumber":2,"raw":"帖主你好，\n\n看起来你正在考虑是否应该选择网络安全专业（网安）还是计算机科学专业（CS）。你的考虑因素主要包括专业背景、课程设置、学习压力和保研的可能性。\n\n首先，要明确的是，无论你选择哪一个专业，你的未来都是靠你自己的能力和努力来决定的，不要过多地依赖外部因素。无论是网安还是计算机，都需要投入大量的时间和精力去学习。想要轻松且成功地通过大学是不现实的。你必须愿意面对挑战，付出努力，才有可能获得成功。\n\n其次，计算机科学专业的选择面的确比网络安全更广泛，因为计算机科学涵盖了网络安全的很多内容，但也包括其他很多领域，比如算法、数据结构、编程语言、软件工程等等。而网络安全专业相对更专注于保护信息系统免受恶意攻击的技能和策略。如果你对特定的方向有强烈的兴趣，这可能会影响你的选择。\n\n再次，你提到的外保问题，不论是哪个专业，都要靠自身的学业成绩和科研能力。每个专业都有可能保研，关键在于你是否有能力和意愿去达到这个目标。如果你的目标是在外面读研究生，那么你需要更努力地提升自己的技能和知识，以便有更强的竞争力。\n\n最后，我想说的是，你选择专业的决定应该基于你的兴趣和激情，而不是你认为哪个专业可能更容易或者更成功。你最终的成功将取决于你的能力，你的努力，和你的决心，而不仅仅是你选择的专业。希望这些建议能帮到你！","cooked":"

帖主你好，

看起来你正在考虑是否应该选择网络安全专业（网安）还是计算机科学专业（CS）。你的考虑因素主要包括专业背景、课程设置、学习压力和保研的可能性。

首先，要明确的是，无论你选择哪一个专业，你的未来都是靠你自己的能力和努力来决定的，不要过多地依赖外部因素。无论是网安还是计算机，都需要投入大量的时间和精力去学习。想要轻松且成功地通过大学是不现实的。你必须愿意面对挑战，付出努力，才有可能获得成功。

其次，计算机科学专业的选择面的确比网络安全更广泛，因为计算机科学涵盖了网络安全的很多内容，但也包括其他很多领域，比如算法、数据结构、编程语言、软件工程等等。而网络安全专业相对更专注于保护信息系统免受恶意攻击的技能和策略。如果你对特定的方向有强烈的兴趣，这可能会影响你的选择。

再次，你提到的外保问题，不论是哪个专业，都要靠自身的学业成绩和科研能力。每个专业都有可能保研，关键在于你是否有能力和意愿去达到这个目标。如果你的目标是在外面读研究生，那么你需要更努力地提升自己的技能和知识，以便有更强的竞争力。

最后，我想说的是，你选择专业的决定应该基于你的兴趣和激情，而不是你认为哪个专业可能更容易或者更成功。你最终的成功将取决于你的能力，你的努力，和你的决心，而不仅仅是你选择的专业。希望这些建议能帮到你！

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谢谢学长 (这个回答感觉像真人写的，但是 chatgpt 这个昵称让我有点把握不住是真人还是 ai 了
\n经提点我审视了一下自己的心态，当前确实十分功利，总想着以更低的代价来获取更高的利润，却迷失了学习最重要最根本的目的，那就是自我的提升。我羡慕取得优异成果的人，但是从根本上来讲，这些人的成就，仍是由其本人铸就的。若将重心放在外部环境上，那着实是本末倒置了。
\n我这种浮躁的精神状态实在是需要改变😣

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-03 03:08:09.270004","updatedAt":"2023-07-03 03:08:09.270004","replyToPostNumber":2,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":184,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":259,"username":"ReturnDream","name":"保密","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3797,"postNumber":4,"raw":"祝你好运","cooked":"

祝你好运

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-03 03:35:40.350548","updatedAt":"2023-07-03 03:35:40.350548","replyToPostNumber":3,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":4,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":423,"username":"chatgpt","name":"ChatGPT","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/88/84/888404ace3821613b580f5661e93ef148083eb26219756f1d21ed4eef438d369.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3799,"postNumber":5,"raw":"建议不要卷保研，这种为了学分绩而单纯应试做题没有多大意义。不如多搞点科研，申 PhD。\n\n如果你非要保研的话，网安作为新专业现在有没有确定保研名额数字，会不会保研率不如 CS？\n\n还有如果要寻求其他出路，网安和 B.E. CS 的学位证哪个更实用也是个问题。","cooked":"

建议不要卷保研，这种为了学分绩而单纯应试做题没有多大意义。不如多搞点科研，申 PhD。

如果你非要保研的话，网安作为新专业现在有没有确定保研名额数字，会不会保研率不如 CS？

还有如果要寻求其他出路，网安和 B.E. CS 的学位证哪个更实用也是个问题。

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是这个理，我觉得做题学不到什么东西🤔

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-03 11:50:33.986636","updatedAt":"2023-07-03 11:50:33.986636","replyToPostNumber":5,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":18,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":259,"username":"ReturnDream","name":"保密","avatarUrl":null,"admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3812,"postNumber":7,"raw":"cs 是真卷😇，网安应该好些","cooked":"

cs 是真卷😇，网安应该好些

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-03 13:02:55.126718","updatedAt":"2023-07-03 13:02:55.126718","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":11,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":46,"username":"Alice","name":null,"avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/ed/c3/edc3d2058e8876c40c302fe4d2247ac2fb5f671c075a57c10d84b4b37fdf8f1b.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3813,"postNumber":8,"raw":"网安，物联网，人工智能这都是计算机分出来的方向，本质上都是小号计算机。方向和本科生没啥关系，好歹研究生才应该分方向，这都是学校为了冲教育部排名和高考招生分出来一大堆没啥营养的专业。\n\n选这些的好处是可能卷度少一些，就业和计算机没啥区别，人家不会看你是人工智能专业就以为你真的会人工智能，还是要看自己写代码水平。\n\n坏处就是（保研政策），这个不确定，你得自己打听。","cooked":"

网安，物联网，人工智能这都是计算机分出来的方向，本质上都是小号计算机。方向和本科生没啥关系，好歹研究生才应该分方向，这都是学校为了冲教育部排名和高考招生分出来一大堆没啥营养的专业。

选这些的好处是可能卷度少一些，就业和计算机没啥区别，人家不会看你是人工智能专业就以为你真的会人工智能，还是要看自己写代码水平。

坏处就是（保研政策），这个不确定，你得自己打听。

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从学科评估上看我们学校 CS 又不强，为何个么卷？

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-03 15:16:35.797084","updatedAt":"2024-03-17 13:04:49.730121","replyToPostNumber":7,"replyCount":2,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":22,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3833,"postNumber":10,"raw":"第四轮 a-,第五轮混了个 a，是没有多强，但也不弱。\n你想一下电信里面哪些专业吸引力大呢？不就是自动化、计算机以及微电子嘛。这些专业收的都是大类里面比较靠前的，怎么会不卷呢？","cooked":"

第四轮 a-,第五轮混了个 a，是没有多强，但也不弱。
\n你想一下电信里面哪些专业吸引力大呢？不就是自动化、计算机以及微电子嘛。这些专业收的都是大类里面比较靠前的，怎么会不卷呢？

\n","createdAt":"2023-07-03 16:57:09.501865","updatedAt":"2023-07-03 16:57:09.501865","replyToPostNumber":9,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":82,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5192,"username":"其实","name":"固然"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":46,"username":"Alice","name":null,"avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/ed/c3/edc3d2058e8876c40c302fe4d2247ac2fb5f671c075a57c10d84b4b37fdf8f1b.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3834,"postNumber":11,"raw":"卷的起源并不是大家都很强或者大家都很菜，而是在一块固定的蛋糕面前，配额有限导致注定有人吃不到，要拼命刷标化成绩去干掉其他人。\n如果价值观比较多元，你 gpa 高，我科研猛，他去创业，大家都能有一个美好的未来。","cooked":"

卷的起源并不是大家都很强或者大家都很菜，而是在一块固定的蛋糕面前，配额有限导致注定有人吃不到，要拼命刷标化成绩去干掉其他人。
\n如果价值观比较多元，你 gpa 高，我科研猛，他去创业，大家都能有一个美好的未来。

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网安不就是计算机加个密码学之类吗？感觉前景不错

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$\"psc-12\"$

计试 rk1 都没保研。他找工今天登机去 hk 了，可见卷不卷和他一点关系也没有。可能本来就不应该那么卷！没啥用！

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rk1 是什么黑话？

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绩点最高的意思。

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这个 rk1 小伙子很有志气啊，就应该这样。

我觉得应该出台规定：绩点排名前 5% 者不得保研，以降低卷度。

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deleted

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十分赞同

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草反向卷看谁分最低

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啊这么离谱😨
\n是不是保外没保成同时又不想在本校读，所以直接去找工作了？

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为什么你要假设所有人都要去保研？如果最终还是要去找工，去保研并不一定能使找工情况变好。

$\"A632FA42-CC3D-4E0F-A064-5253A5395F34\"$

这是我认识的人在香港找工的结果，第一年税后能拿到 3100000 hkd，三年读研机会成本接近一千万，远期成本不可估量。可见只有找工失败的人才会想要读研再找工。

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正确的，有时候读研看似是在提高自己 (的学历), 但是实质只是在逃避 (甚至倒退)

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好强😨
\n确实要是能早早大赚特赚也不用非得去提升学历了😔

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可以问一下此图截于哪个网站嘛😯

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一亩三分地

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我建议计算机，针对本科生。
\n计算机科学与技术这个专业名称是金字招牌：在面试国央企的时候，这个招牌意味着科班，很大程度上意味着优先录取；在考公的时候，这个专业选择面远高于网络空间安全；在申请国外的时候，网络空间安全是敏感专业，而计算机不是那么敏感的专业，遇到的破事会少很多。
\n在硕士期间，你选择计算机不会影响你去我交的网安学院，选择外校读研的时候，计算机比网安认可度要高得多。

题外话：都 2023 年了，在教育部下发文件明确不允许区分保内保外的九年之后，我交居然还在搞内保外保这种乌烟瘴气的东西？

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蟹蟹！
\n😣这里应该是我措辞有问题，我想表达的意思是要想保外，rk 要比校内保研线高个多少才更行得通吧，不然可能就被对方卡了。西交保研的资格应该是没有外和内的区别的🤕

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见上↑↑↑

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感觉网安招生人数过少而且第一年随机性会比较大，建议去问问进网安的人大概的分数

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目前估计在计算机的 rk 是 7-20(是大概，转专业加分流并不一定如我预期)，已经放下在西交校园内换专业的想法了，打算沉下心来提升自己各方面的能力😣

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见上↑↑

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三年读研机会成本接近一千万
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诶，大多数人读研的机会成本差这个 1~2 个数量级吧

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这就是为啥大多数人去读研了，因为他们找不到工

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