{"topic":{"id":14798,"title":"大四老登退役了。。","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2025-06-19 12:31:02.887827","bumpedAt":"2025-07-19 01:11:28.670714","views":802,"postsCount":41,"highestPostNumber":41,"likeCount":65,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"一年多没上门了。。。今天差不多正式退役了上来看看。少壮不努力，老大徒伤悲，最后没书读，只能去一个十八流学校读一个水硕。无颜面见门友。就这样吧。","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":425,"username":"Ogiso_Setsuna","name":"小木曽雪菜","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/84/e3/84e328169491dbc81e9b54386b259ed63a8e6678875dcf17803ec69c4c25cb99.avif"},"tags":["retire"]},"posts":[{"id":57246,"postNumber":1,"raw":"一年多没上门了。。。今天差不多正式退役了上来看看。少壮不努力，老大徒伤悲，最后没书读，只能去一个十八流学校读一个水硕。无颜面见门友。就这样吧。","cooked":"

一年多没上门了。。。今天差不多正式退役了上来看看。少壮不努力，老大徒伤悲，最后没书读，只能去一个十八流学校读一个水硕。无颜面见门友。就这样吧。

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以前的门友老面孔一个也没看到。。唉唉

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去一个十八流学校读一个水硕
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Congrats having books to read 🎉

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如果读硕有机会转 phd，应该转 phd 吗？No clue.

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具体情况具体分析，纯耗时间的话不如工作

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单读硕->很难找到工作->单凭打工熬身份很痛苦
\n没身份->
\n读 phd 很痛苦，不容易毕业->读 phd 较容易拿身份
\n->读 phd 可能熬过找工寒冬，可能熬到找工末日
\n->如果有工，phd 拿钱太少，错过了

归根结底就是身份和钱的问题，再归根结底就是首先是一个身份问题。

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唉找工我现在也很焦虑找工

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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我曾是东八区的鼠鼠 $\":wave_gif:\"$ 不知門友你是否有印象 $\":face_holding_back_tears_hugging_face:\"$

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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唉唉老登都退完了

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我觉得一切的根源都是没钱。。。有钱处处是天堂，有钱是一切精神追求的基础。记得 B 乎上有一个问题是“等你有钱了你要做什么”，高赞说要回学校读书，想学什么学什么。现在选专业也好，升学也好，有几个人先喜欢再选择的，很多人都是哪个能提升物质生活选哪个，现在选宇宙机的人，15 年前大概率去学土木投身基建房地产，7 年前可能会在 cs 和金融里面挑一个，现在只能祈祷到后面别像学土木的一毕业发现行业倒闭了。

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现在选宇宙机的人，15 年前大概率去学土木投身基建房地产，7 年前可能会在 cs 和金融里面挑一个，现在只能祈祷到后面别像学土木的一毕业发现行业倒闭了
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我现在真的破防了😭

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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似乎并非啊。如果金钱不能带来精神上的解放，人反而会成为金钱的奴隶。不少欧洲年轻人，穷的叮当响，仍然会掏空最后一点积蓄去世界各地旅游，住那种最便宜、满是臭虫的青旅，实在没钱了就打点零工。但是他们仍然是幸福的。而老钟做题鼠人，从小压抑到大，读个并不喜欢的专业，找个并不喜欢的工作，相亲个并不太认识的人结婚，生个并不清楚该如何面对的子女，即便有钱，住在昂贵的水泥盒子里，他们的精神和前者相比，哪个更自由呢？美团的大学生，背着学生贷，电磁感应左手右手分不清，仍然有一种自发的、天然的与生俱来的气质，拍张自拍都要写“Future Bio-engineer ✨️” 。同龄的老钟大学生，哪个不是为了日后的生计思前想后，殚精竭虑呢？这种自信，是由金钱所带来的吗？我见过来自德国的中年夫妇，在寻常的工作日飞越一片大洋两片大陆来到太平洋沿岸度假，自由洒脱，戴着头盔骑着摩托在好莱坞山上飞驰。而老钟人，有这个金钱实力的很多，能花的出去的却很少。噫！大概自由意志并不存在吧。人生来是什么，就会作为什么死去。人尚且不能主宰自己的命运，金钱能改变的又有多少呢？

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硕士挺好的，对一些人读着读着就不想读博了 😋

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1、个人愚见：金钱是个人精神解放的基础，国家的经济实力和 zz 制度是国民有更美好的精神生活的基础。
\n2、金钱是必要条件，但不是充分条件。一个吃了上顿没下顿的人，不会有任何精神上的富足（极少数的世外高人和苦行僧除外）。
\n3、关于 op 讲的欧洲/美国年轻人，我没有在欧洲/美国长期居住过，我不能保证我以下的言论完全正确，但是我仍然想分享一下自己的观点；
\n4、欧洲年轻人为什么愿意穷游世界？我认为这和欧洲各国的社会保障制度有非常强的关系，这就是 1 中的“国家经济实力”，是国家“有钱”。欧洲的兜底的社会保障机制让他们对贫穷没有 ptsd，没有恐惧。
\n5、美国大学生对普通的自己感到非常自信，这是完全的后天培育的结果。他们从小接受的是鼓励教育，就是那种你回答 5+5=9，老师都会夸你“虽然你数学不好，但是你 blabla 还有很多优点”的鼓励教育。B 乎看来的：在 us，有个亚裔开的私立学校升学成绩很好，但是毕业生和家长会痛骂那个学校，因为那个学校天天考试，强调成绩，没人鼓励一个 5+5=9 的“宝宝”（完全是一个开在美国的中国学校），那里的毕业生基本上被打击得完全没自信了。
\n6、为什么美国有这种鼓励教育？因为美国不穷，美国从来没挨过饿。美国最穷的 10% 家里餐桌上的食物是什么？中国最穷的 10% 家里餐桌上的食物又是什么？哪怕是大萧条期间，美国也没出现“易子而食”“吃土”。
\n7、大家经常讨论的欧洲老美的松弛、没有 35 岁危机，是 zz 制度和经济实力的产物，缺了一个都不行，经济实力是包容开放文明的制度的基础，毕竟中世纪的封建领主可不会考虑佃农是否松弛。这个问题似乎仍然可以深挖但是最好不要这样做。
\n8、老钟没有 op 想的那么有钱，我们一个月能赚多少钱？能有多少退休金；有没有背几十年的房贷？生了病会不会返贫？养小孩的成本能不能负担？父母养老能不能解决？这些问题的答案恐怕没那么好看。op 也应该很清楚现在大学生毕业的平均工资是多少。
\n9、作为浙江考生，个人感觉，经济越差的地方，越容易有小镇做题家，家里越穷，越有可能成为小镇做题家。我的高中同学没有很明显的老鼠味，因为 45 个人的班级，只有 2、3 个人的父母不在体制内。
\n10、第 9 条听起来像不像一种经济发达省份的体制内家庭的 privilege？这就是西方对东方的 privilege 的汉化版。
\n11、关于精神面貌的问题，有很大的讨论空间，但是一直探讨下去可能会带来更多烦恼和痛苦，所以我只有吃饱了撑的的时候才想这些。
\n12、读 phd 或许没那么好，phd 也挺像一种路径依赖的，但是 op 如果想清楚了，还是祝 op 能成功硕转博。

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找到学界的 position 就挺好的，只要愿意交流，在现代社会是不太缺少机会的。

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自信这点不好说，本人自信心被打击最大的就是在 ucb 读书的这半年，想滚回老家当老师的想法也是那时候才产生的。现在正在堪堪重建自我认知。其实就是在天才身边以为自己是废物，但不过是个普通人。

不过松弛感挺松弛，和 TA 人生相谈的时候发现那边对自己的未来没什么具体的规划（？）很多准备走一步看一步总之没有大一大二垂直实习大三暑期转正这种明确的路径规划

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

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所以饭还是得一口一口吃

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何意味

\n","createdAt":"2025-06-20 11:16:41.18985","updatedAt":"2025-06-20 11:16:47.112173","replyToPostNumber":17,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":3,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":7014,"username":"兴庆宫第一迷路幽灵","name":"post deleted by author","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/bb/0e/bb0ebbc98562fa3e00284e17f15383c53f688af071adf093639e69f313d610a1.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。","signatureCooked":"

此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":57386,"postNumber":19,"raw":"[quote=\"随风不逝，post:16, topic:14798\"]\n自信心被打击最大的就是在 ucb 读书的这半年\n[/quote]\n\n> 根据标准智商测试，科学界的伟人并不以其非凡的才智而著称；他们真正的突出之处是他们持续工作的能力。**伟大的科学家几乎都是工作狂**。伟大的科学家有着惊人的毅力，他们的**精神疲惫阈值非常高**。\n\n![image|663x347](/uploads/image/39/f9/39f9f52ee0cdf1c8d00fb11fb222e7f1d4b8780a5c0fc2c924fc295ca573b754.avif)","cooked":"

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自信心被打击最大的就是在 ucb 读书的这半年
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根据标准智商测试，科学界的伟人并不以其非凡的才智而著称；他们真正的突出之处是他们持续工作的能力。伟大的科学家几乎都是工作狂。伟大的科学家有着惊人的毅力，他们的精神疲惫阈值非常高。
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抛开最贫困落后悲惨的地区不谈，在现代社会，保持温饱、实现个人精神解放并不需要很多钱。实现个人精神的解放，主要并不在于金钱的多少，而在于人的本身。有的人只需要实现温饱就能怡然自得，有的人则不论有多少钱都永远焦虑。你交一个工科毕业的本科生，非天坑专业，成绩中等，刚毕业每月也能拿勉强五位数的工资。如果要考虑“能有多少退休金；有没有背几十年的房贷？生了病会不会返贫？养小孩的成本能不能负担？父母养老能不能解决”这些，那么这个工资连贫困线都不会到。但是如果不用考虑这些，那么这个工资就可以活的比较滋润。金钱带来的解放不在于有多少钱，而在于花多少钱。到手的钱到底是你自己的，而该怎么花这些钱确似乎有着外界强加的因素。人是自由的吗？如果我们连自己怎么花钱都无法决定，那我们又能决定什么呢？

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美国大学生对普通的自己感到非常自信，这是完全的后天培育的结果
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人是天生自信的，还是天生自卑的？如果我们认可“学了 X 专业->未来从事 X 专业的工作”是一个自然人的自然推断，那么就不应当对此而感到大惊小怪。如果一个人的性格、思想完全由后天的环境所影响，那么人不再是人的本身，而只是环境的一个缩影。人的行为也不是自由意志的体现，而是完全由社会的宏观形态可以推测而来的必然结果罢了。如果自由意志不存在，那么精神解放又有何意义呢？
\n浙江的经济比不少欧洲小国要强，但是浙江人就一定比这些小国的人精神更解放吗？不少浙江人，从小做题卷到大，读书时比成绩，最后卷到美团读 phd，再卷进硅谷，再卷到比 package，比学区房，比小孩成绩，这种路径和留在国内又有何异呢？环境改变了，似乎人也没变。在硅谷的老钟程序员，他们缺钱吗，缺假期吗？为什么仍然到哪都有一股“做题味”？还是说，如果成长期没钱，就算未来有钱了，也没救了呢？

也许生命只是一团在冰冷的星光间的平凡火焰，自由意志只是一声决定论宇宙里空荡的长笑，万事万物自有其理，我们又何必庸人自扰呢？

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伟大的科学家是超高智商人群中同时具有高精神疲惫阈值的，而并非具有高精神疲惫阈值的普通人

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如果要考虑“能有多少退休金；有没有背几十年的房贷？生了病会不会返贫？养小孩的成本能不能负担？父母养老能不能解决”这些，那么这个工资连贫困线都不会到。但是如果不用考虑这些
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可是人怎么能不考虑这些… $\":mouse_hole:\"$

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此人不语，只是一味地在门里生产废料。

\n"}},{"id":57438,"postNumber":23,"raw":"古希腊的葛第士以非常巧妙的方法，在战车前端打了一串结。他预言：谁能打开这个结，就可以征服亚洲。一直到公元前 334 年，还没有一个人能够成功地将绳结打开。这时，亚历山大入侵小亚西亚，他来到葛第士绳结之前，便拔剑砍断了绳结。后来，他果然一举占领了比希腊大 50 倍的波斯帝国。","cooked":"

古希腊的葛第士以非常巧妙的方法，在战车前端打了一串结。他预言：谁能打开这个结，就可以征服亚洲。一直到公元前 334 年，还没有一个人能够成功地将绳结打开。这时，亚历山大入侵小亚西亚，他来到葛第士绳结之前，便拔剑砍断了绳结。后来，他果然一举占领了比希腊大 50 倍的波斯帝国。

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对的，其实花钱比较重要，你赚的再多，但是不经思考地买房子，去请客吃饭，买情绪价值产品给孩子上补习班，那多少钱都不够花的，乃至花了也是一堆空虚。关注自己消费的习惯也应该是一个人生必修课

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关注自己消费的习惯
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是这样的，哪怕再忙也要记记账，看看钱都花到哪里去了。

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——發自我的手機

"}},{"id":57702,"postNumber":26,"raw":"如果是 US 硕想要留 US，那么除非走一些旁门（比如长得好看的话婚绿，家里有钱 eb5，还有我不太敢说的一条路），基本都得 PhD 才能拿卡吧，h1b 这条太难了（不要想 3 年 opt 用完赚回学费回去，因为绝大多数大厂不会要一个 3 年后肯定辞职的人）；如果不介意换护照，走加拿大那边用 TN 签证是一个路子，个人觉得如果不反感学术，可以读 PhD 期间去实习？美国的老板应该普遍不介意这个，如果遇到特别好的业界机会，并且有别的手段解决卡，那么 quit 就行（个人不建议没卡情况下靠 h1b 长期工作，因为相当于被公司拿捏住弱点）","cooked":"

如果是 US 硕想要留 US，那么除非走一些旁门（比如长得好看的话婚绿，家里有钱 eb5，还有我不太敢说的一条路），基本都得 PhD 才能拿卡吧，h1b 这条太难了（不要想 3 年 opt 用完赚回学费回去，因为绝大多数大厂不会要一个 3 年后肯定辞职的人）；如果不介意换护照，走加拿大那边用 TN 签证是一个路子，个人觉得如果不反感学术，可以读 PhD 期间去实习？美国的老板应该普遍不介意这个，如果遇到特别好的业界机会，并且有别的手段解决卡，那么 quit 就行（个人不建议没卡情况下靠 h1b 长期工作，因为相当于被公司拿捏住弱点）

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加拿大现在也已经堵死了

niw 现在也在慢慢变难，也许等攒好论文就堵死了

牢川还有三年半的妖要作

分割线
\n但其实有些学校（的 cs phd）夏天不发工资的，大家都会去实习，算是比较好的传统了

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还有我不太敢说的一条路
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可以详细说说吗？

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没啥好说的 asylum 呗

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异想天开之润美三计：
\n以下三计全为理论及实操皆可行

上计
\n找在美的西北欧、加澳等老牌帝国主义国家女友结婚，这些国家的人通过 h1b 转绿卡几乎无排期，然后她 485 身份带你光速绿卡上车。直接找美国人结婚拿到正式绿卡得两年，而 485 可以光速绿。而且这些老帝国主义国家基本都支持双国籍，到时候手持两本蓝星免签 t0 护照，这个星球上几乎没有去不了的地方。而且双重保险，等赚饱钱了不喜欢全球征税就可以直接走人。此计适合天生建模好的人群。

中计
\n找硅谷大厂 faang 白人阿斯伯格男同程序员结婚然后他还可以给你大厂岗位内推，你卧“薪”尝“胆”两年以后直接离婚。然后如果你的律师牛逼，你作为少数族裔，外国人，弱势一方，还可以爆他金币，到时候有大厂高薪工作，还可以拿赡养费，还有绿卡，衣食无忧。此计适合野獸派。

下计
\n去犹他州沙漠里面，皈依摩门教，然后自愿被一根铁链栓到一个神秘语言学校里学八周鸟语，然后空降某个鸟不拉屎的国家传教两年（抽签决定国家，运气好抽到英语国家或者汉语国家就赚了）。只要你诚心信教，遵守教义，积极传教，到时候入教直接可以和教友姐妹 dating（根据教义，未婚的教友姐妹都是守身如玉的贞洁烈女），然后随便婚绿。而且犹他州整个州基本就是摩门教把持的，给你安排个对口的工作也并非难事。图省钱就去读个 cc，或者 uu 和 byu（最佳），读个酒店管理就可以进万豪。如果是 cs 或者金融的话，可以去高盛的盐湖城分部。而且摩门教家庭教育非常严格，平均每家生五个小孩，禁烟禁酒禁咖啡禁茶，生活美满，离婚率低，此计适合前现代劳保。

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空降某个鸟不拉屎的国家传教两年
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居然不是在 US 吗太哈人了

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去 Utah 拿绿卡的中国男性多吗

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我只知道有，多肯定不多。信摩门，愿意皈依摩门教的中国人能有多少？不过摩门教好像上海有组织？

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愿意皈依摩门教的中国人能有多少？
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有什么比较坑的地方吗，对我来说宗教不存在信不信的问题，就看作地方法律对待

禁咖啡因感觉还行吧

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貌似可乐也不能喝？我不是教友哈，我只和传教士谈笑风生过。感觉应该没什么巨坑的地方？反正也可以退教。不过美国本地的无神论左派年轻人对摩门教还是比较讳莫如深的。油管上有很多摩门教徒和前摩门教徒的视频你可以找来学习一下。
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传教士给我的小名片

感兴趣的话可以学起来了 ☝️ 🤓 📖
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酒店送的

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新奇还有这种教，ou 也是从基督教分出来的。

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@tension 你学学

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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今天是真的走了🏳

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巧了，我去年也是今日走的😆

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\nFarewell!

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