{"topic":{"id":13953,"title":"一些 native 的职业思考","slug":"topic","categoryId":11,"createdAt":"2024-12-03 13:04:16.297456","bumpedAt":"2024-12-12 06:26:29.960556","views":280,"postsCount":6,"highestPostNumber":6,"likeCount":9,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"由于最近在选 offer，和很多人有过不同深度的交流，有一些简单的思考，不完整，姑且当作抛砖引玉吧。背景本人秋招 offer 决赛圈是两个公司：某互联网大厂：n*15+30，后续简称 A 某相机行业 top1：（n+6）*15，后续简称 B A 的部门看着挺核心的，做某国民级 APP 的广告相关； B 主要做 AI 应用的落地，被大老板看重。找了哪些人帮忙分析？专业老师，多名；家里人；前同事，多名；现公司同事，多名； ……","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":11,"name":"深入交流","slug":"distilled","color":"c01c28"},"author":{"id":178,"username":"Hypocrisy","name":"rotartsinimdA","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/ce/f3/cef3773e378e161524cc7523c8a63dff0698d22802b0c1ab669894d395ee36a3.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":43990,"postNumber":1,"raw":"由于最近在选 offer，和很多人有过不同深度的交流，有一些简单的思考，不完整，姑且当作抛砖引玉吧。\n\n## 背景\n本人秋招 offer 决赛圈是两个公司：\n1. 某互联网大厂：n*15+30，后续简称 A\n2. 某相机行业 top1：（n+6）*15，后续简称 B\n\nA 的部门看着挺核心的，做某国民级 APP 的广告相关；\nB 主要做 AI 应用的落地，被大老板看重。\n\n## 找了哪些人帮忙分析？\n专业老师，多名；\n家里人；\n前同事，多名；\n现公司同事，多名；\n……\n\n## 结论？\n无。目前计划离开现司后去 A 实习一小段时间感受下。\n\n## 要分享的核心内容\n1. 路要越走越宽，选择要越走越多。人生长度有限，唯一的追求是最大化人生体验。\n2. 看自己发挥和成长的空间，追求完整的职业生态（如果是天才不打工那自然是最爽的）。\n3. 拒绝别人趋之若鹜的东西，只会证明你比拥有它的人更加强。\n4. 明白自己想要什么很重要，但很难，年轻时候几乎不可能真正懂，即使懂，也很难下定决心去做。\n5. 人生很长，职业很长，机会很多，但改变命运的机会很少。\n6. 大数定律不可避免，做大众不会做的，有更好的上限，但自身的能力能够提供良好的下限。\n\n以上是做抉择考虑到的一部分内容，还有一些我自己认为有道理，但是还缺乏更多的考量。\n\n一些通用能力：\n1. ownership，一个感觉被喷但是又确实重要的品质。或许可以从大学的小组作业开始锻炼起，从当组长能够让组员人人有事做且最后能够不紧不慢出结果开始。\n2. 换位思考，己所不欲勿施于人，尊重对方的利益，寻求帮助时，更要如此。参考：如何优雅の提问。\n3. 表述能力。结构化、清晰化、书面化。","cooked":"

由于最近在选 offer，和很多人有过不同深度的交流，有一些简单的思考，不完整，姑且当作抛砖引玉吧。

背景

本人秋招 offer 决赛圈是两个公司：

某互联网大厂：n*15+30，后续简称 A
某相机行业 top1：（n+6）*15，后续简称 B

A 的部门看着挺核心的，做某国民级 APP 的广告相关；
\nB 主要做 AI 应用的落地，被大老板看重。

找了哪些人帮忙分析？

专业老师，多名；
\n家里人；
\n前同事，多名；
\n现公司同事，多名；
\n……

结论？

无。目前计划离开现司后去 A 实习一小段时间感受下。

要分享的核心内容

路要越走越宽，选择要越走越多。人生长度有限，唯一的追求是最大化人生体验。
看自己发挥和成长的空间，追求完整的职业生态（如果是天才不打工那自然是最爽的）。
拒绝别人趋之若鹜的东西，只会证明你比拥有它的人更加强。
明白自己想要什么很重要，但很难，年轻时候几乎不可能真正懂，即使懂，也很难下定决心去做。
人生很长，职业很长，机会很多，但改变命运的机会很少。
大数定律不可避免，做大众不会做的，有更好的上限，但自身的能力能够提供良好的下限。

以上是做抉择考虑到的一部分内容，还有一些我自己认为有道理，但是还缺乏更多的考量。

一些通用能力：

ownership，一个感觉被喷但是又确实重要的品质。或许可以从大学的小组作业开始锻炼起，从当组长能够让组员人人有事做且最后能够不紧不慢出结果开始。
换位思考，己所不欲勿施于人，尊重对方的利益，寻求帮助时，更要如此。参考：如何优雅の提问。
表述能力。结构化、清晰化、书面化。

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之前上过一堂生涯规划课，老师用了很大的篇幅和案例去论述 career 和 job 的联系，可能最初期 career 只是一个远方模糊的目标，但随着一份份 job 踏下的脚印，道路也会逐渐清晰；同时，career 也对工作机会的选择提供指导。

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