{"topic":{"id":13794,"title":"对抗孤独的最好方法就是读诗","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2024-11-01 08:01:28.172333","bumpedAt":"2024-11-04 02:48:02.52085","views":225,"postsCount":20,"highestPostNumber":21,"likeCount":11,"closed":true,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"随便翻翻书，看到古今中外的人们都是如何和自己一样寂寞、失落并困苦的，瞬间就感到自己置身于宏大的宇宙中、与巨大时间和空间尺度上的人们联系在一起，就如直面璀璨的银河一样震撼。而且有些诗人把情感表达得过于夸张，实在是忍不住笑出声来。","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":6205,"username":"uika_winwing","name":null,"avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/76/3b/763b1e5ad8a424c4450bb26cea5ae532e7b1cd9da926ac5d99215d7123bf6002.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":42495,"postNumber":1,"raw":"随便翻翻书，看到古今中外的人们都是如何和自己一样寂寞、失落并困苦的，瞬间就感到自己置身于宏大的宇宙中、与巨大时间和空间尺度上的人们联系在一起，就如直面璀璨的银河一样震撼。\n\n而且有些诗人把情感表达得过于夸张，实在是忍不住笑出声来。","cooked":"

随便翻翻书，看到古今中外的人们都是如何和自己一样寂寞、失落并困苦的，瞬间就感到自己置身于宏大的宇宙中、与巨大时间和空间尺度上的人们联系在一起，就如直面璀璨的银河一样震撼。

而且有些诗人把情感表达得过于夸张，实在是忍不住笑出声来。

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好的，Mr.sushi

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亚马逊每年都会向自己物流中心的员工提供 5 000 美元的奖金，鼓励他们离职。
\nMelanie Etches 对“付费离职”合理性的解释：“我们只希望愿意留在亚马逊的人留在这里工作。长远来看，待在一个你不愿意待的地方，对我们的员工和公司都不健康。”

换一个更好的环境。

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对抗孤独的办法是社交 🤔 人是群居动物
\nIsolation is not good for me. 😹

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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高质量社交 >> 普通社交 > 独居（读书上网也是社交） >> 低质量社交

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除非你真的享受孤独，否则对抗孤独的最好方式还是解决孤独本身

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打交打交打交，在家大交在实验室打交，打工为打交，在工位打交，在学校打交，在厕所打交

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同意，为了彻底解决孤独，还是要社交。
\n不能因为讨厌低质量社交而不去社交，这算因噎废食。

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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读不懂诗。只喜欢措辞非常奇妙的诗，比如天狗。否则根本没感觉。

明明小说散文还是可以正常欣赏的。可能是我不够孤独🥰

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你没有经历过我所经历的

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读诗可以从很多角度去读，比如可以欣赏文学的美、可以去解析写作技巧等等，或者大概翻翻寻找一点情感 connection。

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好吧，既然没经历过，那我就不乱发表意见了。因地制宜才是第一位的，只有经历过才有发言权😇

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年月擦身过，暂且问，会更好吗？

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需要区分 solitude, loneliness, and isolation

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其实所说的是不同种类的社交，对应不同深度的精神交流

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“大概翻翻”而已

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中西方诗歌的伦理体系差别还是挺大的

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这还是惜胶大吗？

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——發自我的手機

"}},{"id":42561,"postNumber":19,"raw":"\n[quote=\"羽衣若风，post:1, topic:13794, username:uijakfuu\"]\n瞬间就感到自己置身于宏大的宇宙中、与巨大时间和空间尺度上的人们联系在一起，就如直面璀璨的银河一样震撼\n[/quote]\n我喜欢参观西安周边的汉唐陵墓，这也常常带给我类似的感受。","cooked":"

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t羽衣若风，post:1, topic:13794, username:uijakfuu:\n\t\t\t\t\t\t

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瞬间就感到自己置身于宏大的宇宙中、与巨大时间和空间尺度上的人们联系在一起，就如直面璀璨的银河一样震撼
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我喜欢参观西安周边的汉唐陵墓，这也常常带给我类似的感受。

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诗歌音乐的作用都是调动情绪所以也是有很大的风险的

很多时候心理问题是认知错乱

伯恩斯新情绪疗法

数十项已发表的研究证实，治疗师也可以很有效地使用 CBT。它的疗效在短期内与最好的抗抑郁药物一样好，从长远来看甚至更加有效。

CBT 的核心和金刚经是非常类似的

现代生活的一大特色是去宗教化
\n实际上寺庙在过去扮演了很多角色，比如意识形态管理、金融机构、心理探索（包括稳定的认知构建和安全的音乐归类）、军事等等很多职能

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“稳定的认知构建”

本来有若干弱稳定性来源，所以认知尚还协调。但有时太靠近单一的强不稳定源，以致将其他稳定源全部屏蔽掉了。

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