{"topic":{"id":13383,"title":"老狗的秋招经历和技巧分享","slug":"topic","categoryId":11,"createdAt":"2024-09-09 14:28:10.150583","bumpedAt":"2024-09-16 04:00:11.617253","views":934,"postsCount":26,"highestPostNumber":26,"likeCount":26,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"LZ 几年前在 xjtu 毕业，随后在其他学校读了硕士，去年开始工作。LZ 的秋招硕果累累，几乎拿下了国内所有自己想去的地方的 offer。到目前，LZ 刚工作一年，对之前的一些想法也有了更深刻的认识。本来抱着回来发招聘内推的想法找到了这个网站，后来也有一些同学私聊我问了一些问题，再加上最近一段时间的潜水，也想借着这个机会谈谈我的一些想法。可能今年的秋招陆陆续续已经结束，就给后来者一些启发。LZ 文笔不好，就以 bullet 的形式展开…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":11,"name":"深入交流","slug":"distilled","color":"c01c28"},"author":{"id":5371,"username":"Akrem","name":"Akrem","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/59/98/599875e334a726fa5a8b13fe1ef4d2e013ffb6b8d22230f823f1334501670679.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":39783,"postNumber":1,"raw":"LZ 几年前在 xjtu 毕业，随后在其他学校读了硕士，去年开始工作。LZ 的秋招硕果累累，几乎拿下了国内所有自己想去的地方的 offer。到目前，LZ 刚工作一年，对之前的一些想法也有了更深刻的认识。本来抱着回来发招聘内推的想法找到了这个网站，后来也有一些同学私聊我问了一些问题，再加上最近一段时间的潜水，也想借着这个机会谈谈我的一些想法。可能今年的秋招陆陆续续已经结束，就给后来者一些启发。LZ 文笔不好，就以 bullet 的形式展开。\n\n### 个人情况\n1. 背景：LZ 有两段长时间的大厂实习经历，以及自认为有较为扎实的 algorithm 和 coding 功底；LZ 的表达能力较强，比较能够说服面试官。LZ 的弱势在于计算机架构等基础知识，以及没有出色的论文。\n2. 定位岗位、方向：算法工程师、算法研究员；深度学习 related。\n\n1. 秋招时间表：6 月中旬开始投了第一家提前批；7 月初拿到第一家中型公司的 offer；7 月底拿到第一家大公司（baidu）口头 offer；十月中旬拿到 tiktok offer 后基本终止校招，只参加一些加面以及 HR 面。总共投递 50 家（有重复，比如转岗等），其中分布大约为 [外企 10；大厂 10（阿里一拆 N 影响）；自动驾驶 10；中厂 10（小红书、美团等）；奇怪的初创 10；金融量化 5]。最终拿到了 20 个 offer。\n### 面试技巧\nLZ 最推崇的方式是用 PPT 来引导面试官，让面试按照自己的思路展开。我们首先要分析面试都包含哪些东西：5 分钟的简介、二十分钟的过去工作展开、半小时的写题/问答、以及 5 分钟的反问；这是大部分的面试流程，可能会有一些调整。面试者要做的，就是在这 60 分钟内，成功的“fool”面试官，让他给你写下一个好的印象与好的面评。LZ 常用的方式是在介绍工作的时候先快速过一遍 PPT 引起面试官的注意，然后直接追问他对哪一块感兴趣，随后展开介绍。\n\n追问面试官也是 LZ 面试中最喜欢使用的技巧。面试中最害怕的情况就是面试官听的时候不认真，最后面完了回想了一下脑子里空空如也，给你写下一个“脱离实际”或者“不知所云”的评价。LZ 在面试中常常追着面试官问：这一块我讲清楚了吗？不怕面试官追问，就怕他走神。\n\n对于代码薄弱比较弱的人，更可以加重这一块自我介绍的占比，在引起面试官注意后，他可能不再会对代码有严格的要求。LZ 经常在一通输出之后 impress 面试官，他就出了一道 two sum 意思一下就行了。\n### 工具推荐\n1. Notion：用来 track 各家的进度，以及记录你对各家的 comments\n3. 滴答清单：防止忘记参加面试（LZ 因为自己的疏忽忘记了 MSRA 的面试，终生遗憾）\n### 谈薪\nLZ 的策略是：先等各家开出 offer，排除掉给的低的那部分，再在剩下的地方选择。在谈薪阶段，有些公司的 argue 空间极大，需要你有其他家开出比较高的 offer，他们会去匹配。比如大厂中的阿里，中厂中的滴滴等等。这就需要在找工作的时候多投几家。当然，拼多多这样的 offer 没啥用，所有公司都会直接无视，“你爱去你就去”。去年的一大变量是理想汽车，给几乎所有拿到 offer 的人开出了 35-40k 的工资，而他们的面试总时长也就一小时（三场总时长）。于是有不少人靠着理想的 offer argue 到了不错的薪水（楼主没有面理想，很后悔）。\n\n在谈薪的阶段，hr 会变得极其亲切，这时候把你用相对低的成本留下来，就是他们的 kpi 了。这个阶段一定要抓住机会提出需求，例如和业务 leader 聊一聊；和组里的人聊一聊等。这些基本都会得到满足。另外，business is business，谈钱就大胆谈，毕竟多要一点以后干的也会开心一点。\n### offer 选择\nLZ 不是一个很能卷的人，字节中相对轻松的组就是 LZ 能接受的上限了。LZ 去遥遥领先参观过，他们的军训文化让 LZ 感到生理不适。在和 hr 的交流中，LZ 常常会问：公司里/你们期望招到什么样性格的人呢？通过这种方式，LZ 也排除了得到的答案是皮实/老实的公司。最后，LZ 考虑了这些因素，供大家参考：\n薪酬、方向、大厂、wlb、未来成长、同事水平。\n之所以没有考虑『稳定』，是因为既然都选择私企了，也没有必要了。大家都是过几年就跳一跳。\nLZ 通过实习收集的人脉，也都交流了一下，大家一般认为前三者最为重要，因为 wlb 随着环境变化可能会失去，同事水平高意味着你分到的羹少了。\n\n另外，在 offer 选择的时候，LZ 也着重问了年假相关的内容，有的公司虽然给了年假，但是实际上并不能请。说白了，这些表象都是反应这个公司有没有恶心人的卷文化。\n最终 LZ 去了一家领域内的头部，但并非互联网巨头的公司。目前还在蜜月期，应该算满足了 LZ 的所有要求。如果未来工作几年后 LZ 破防了，也会回来更新的 :rofl:\n\n### 薪酬\n 对于平均数，开发的话可以期待在 40-55 w 的年包；算法 40-70w 的年包。但要注意，越高的年包水分越大，包括 1）未上市公司的期权 2）已上市公司的股票（兑换需要行权价，以及税费）3）虚高的年终奖（能按照 0.9 发放就不错了）。如果你能去加班很凶的公司，可以乘上 1.5-2.5 倍。\n\n---\n### 其他\n名校的学生最大的劣势，在于妄自菲薄。甚至看到 LZ 写的“名校”，都要问 xjtu 算名校吗？LZ 觉得大家一定要对自己有信心，要相信世界是个草台班子，只要混进去，你就能跟得上。\n\n### 如果你还年轻\n**尽早实习。** 90% 以上的实验室做的都是 shit work，即使是科研也没有企业里 ai lab 做的科研有价值。\n\n---\n大家如果有疑问，也欢迎随时讨论和提问呀~","cooked":"

LZ 几年前在 xjtu 毕业，随后在其他学校读了硕士，去年开始工作。LZ 的秋招硕果累累，几乎拿下了国内所有自己想去的地方的 offer。到目前，LZ 刚工作一年，对之前的一些想法也有了更深刻的认识。本来抱着回来发招聘内推的想法找到了这个网站，后来也有一些同学私聊我问了一些问题，再加上最近一段时间的潜水，也想借着这个机会谈谈我的一些想法。可能今年的秋招陆陆续续已经结束，就给后来者一些启发。LZ 文笔不好，就以 bullet 的形式展开。

个人情况

\n
背景：LZ 有两段长时间的大厂实习经历，以及自认为有较为扎实的 algorithm 和 coding 功底；LZ 的表达能力较强，比较能够说服面试官。LZ 的弱势在于计算机架构等基础知识，以及没有出色的论文。
\n
\n
定位岗位、方向：算法工程师、算法研究员；深度学习 related。
\n
\n
秋招时间表：6 月中旬开始投了第一家提前批；7 月初拿到第一家中型公司的 offer；7 月底拿到第一家大公司（baidu）口头 offer；十月中旬拿到 tiktok offer 后基本终止校招，只参加一些加面以及 HR 面。总共投递 50 家（有重复，比如转岗等），其中分布大约为 [外企 10；大厂 10（阿里一拆 N 影响）；自动驾驶 10；中厂 10（小红书、美团等）；奇怪的初创 10；金融量化 5]。最终拿到了 20 个 offer。
\n

面试技巧

LZ 最推崇的方式是用 PPT 来引导面试官，让面试按照自己的思路展开。我们首先要分析面试都包含哪些东西：5 分钟的简介、二十分钟的过去工作展开、半小时的写题/问答、以及 5 分钟的反问；这是大部分的面试流程，可能会有一些调整。面试者要做的，就是在这 60 分钟内，成功的“fool”面试官，让他给你写下一个好的印象与好的面评。LZ 常用的方式是在介绍工作的时候先快速过一遍 PPT 引起面试官的注意，然后直接追问他对哪一块感兴趣，随后展开介绍。

追问面试官也是 LZ 面试中最喜欢使用的技巧。面试中最害怕的情况就是面试官听的时候不认真，最后面完了回想了一下脑子里空空如也，给你写下一个“脱离实际”或者“不知所云”的评价。LZ 在面试中常常追着面试官问：这一块我讲清楚了吗？不怕面试官追问，就怕他走神。

对于代码薄弱比较弱的人，更可以加重这一块自我介绍的占比，在引起面试官注意后，他可能不再会对代码有严格的要求。LZ 经常在一通输出之后 impress 面试官，他就出了一道 two sum 意思一下就行了。

工具推荐

Notion：用来 track 各家的进度，以及记录你对各家的 comments
滴答清单：防止忘记参加面试（LZ 因为自己的疏忽忘记了 MSRA 的面试，终生遗憾）

谈薪

LZ 的策略是：先等各家开出 offer，排除掉给的低的那部分，再在剩下的地方选择。在谈薪阶段，有些公司的 argue 空间极大，需要你有其他家开出比较高的 offer，他们会去匹配。比如大厂中的阿里，中厂中的滴滴等等。这就需要在找工作的时候多投几家。当然，拼多多这样的 offer 没啥用，所有公司都会直接无视，“你爱去你就去”。去年的一大变量是理想汽车，给几乎所有拿到 offer 的人开出了 35-40k 的工资，而他们的面试总时长也就一小时（三场总时长）。于是有不少人靠着理想的 offer argue 到了不错的薪水（楼主没有面理想，很后悔）。

在谈薪的阶段，hr 会变得极其亲切，这时候把你用相对低的成本留下来，就是他们的 kpi 了。这个阶段一定要抓住机会提出需求，例如和业务 leader 聊一聊；和组里的人聊一聊等。这些基本都会得到满足。另外，business is business，谈钱就大胆谈，毕竟多要一点以后干的也会开心一点。

offer 选择

LZ 不是一个很能卷的人，字节中相对轻松的组就是 LZ 能接受的上限了。LZ 去遥遥领先参观过，他们的军训文化让 LZ 感到生理不适。在和 hr 的交流中，LZ 常常会问：公司里/你们期望招到什么样性格的人呢？通过这种方式，LZ 也排除了得到的答案是皮实/老实的公司。最后，LZ 考虑了这些因素，供大家参考：
\n薪酬、方向、大厂、wlb、未来成长、同事水平。
\n之所以没有考虑『稳定』，是因为既然都选择私企了，也没有必要了。大家都是过几年就跳一跳。
\nLZ 通过实习收集的人脉，也都交流了一下，大家一般认为前三者最为重要，因为 wlb 随着环境变化可能会失去，同事水平高意味着你分到的羹少了。

另外，在 offer 选择的时候，LZ 也着重问了年假相关的内容，有的公司虽然给了年假，但是实际上并不能请。说白了，这些表象都是反应这个公司有没有恶心人的卷文化。
\n最终 LZ 去了一家领域内的头部，但并非互联网巨头的公司。目前还在蜜月期，应该算满足了 LZ 的所有要求。如果未来工作几年后 LZ 破防了，也会回来更新的 🤣

薪酬

对于平均数，开发的话可以期待在 40-55 w 的年包；算法 40-70w 的年包。但要注意，越高的年包水分越大，包括 1）未上市公司的期权 2）已上市公司的股票（兑换需要行权价，以及税费）3）虚高的年终奖（能按照 0.9 发放就不错了）。如果你能去加班很凶的公司，可以乘上 1.5-2.5 倍。

其他

名校的学生最大的劣势，在于妄自菲薄。甚至看到 LZ 写的“名校”，都要问 xjtu 算名校吗？LZ 觉得大家一定要对自己有信心，要相信世界是个草台班子，只要混进去，你就能跟得上。

如果你还年轻

尽早实习。 90% 以上的实验室做的都是 shit work，即使是科研也没有企业里 ai lab 做的科研有价值。

大家如果有疑问，也欢迎随时讨论和提问呀~

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佩服。我从来没想过用 ppt 引导面试官😭😭😭 我没有任何成果…

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谢谢学长🥹🥹🥹

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你已经很 NB 了 🤣

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想要稳定的 wlb 是不是只有现在打开行测和申论一条路了😭

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--.-..-....-..----.

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短期如此。

我认为长线并不如此。

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稳定+wlb 我觉得当下就公务员和国企了；不过公务员和国企未来走向也不明朗诶。大家都在降薪。我有个浙大的好朋友入职了电网三周就离职了，里面工作强度堪比 pdd，薪酬就和实习生差不多，如果有浙大的朋友可以打听一下，他们 cc98 的十大帖子。

包括楼上说的 jane street，应该说是高薪+wlb。不过话说回来，稳定是为了啥呢？如果你在一个公司干十年的钱就够小城市提前退休，你是不是 wlb 十年然后回家就好了

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我觉得稳定是一种幻觉

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小城市提前退休
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多少钱够计算小城市退休，怎么计算 🤔

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比如我们县。

2000w 可以很爽躺平。

不过我还是认为，按照科技的发展，靠打工攒钱退休几乎不可能。
\n不掌握生产资料，钱只是废纸一张，随时可以作废推倒再来。

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2000w 很难吧？

假如抛开车子孩子回老家躺平感觉 500w 差不多

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我有个浙大的好朋友入职了电网三周就离职了，里面工作强度堪比 pdd，薪酬就和实习生差不多
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如果这样的话，电气学院为啥会有超过 90% 毕业生去电网公司？

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😭确实听说很多公务员国企加班也很严重，稳定的穷也是一种稳定 😭
\n我没有可以回的家乡

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支持稳定是一种幻觉，然而童年一直活在不稳定的日子里，小时候最缺什么长大了最想追求什么 😭

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财富自由的一般标准是 20-40 倍年支出即可，如果不考虑买房之类的，在小县城一般是百万级别的

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从来没想过做 ppt，而且做 ppt 不是更容易作假吗，自己可以照着讲项目

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财富自由是一种幻觉

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江浙电网吗，怎么感觉跟我了解到的不太一样？
\n我是江苏人，有同学在电网实习过 🤔

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对方强烈要求严格保密，电网的追杀能力很强，抱歉我无法透露更多；如果你有认识的朋友在浙大，可以拜托他去 cc98 帮你看看。

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