{"topic":{"id":13175,"title":"你站 AI Chatbot 服务毫无意义","slug":"topic","categoryId":2,"createdAt":"2024-07-30 15:08:15.743593","bumpedAt":"2024-07-31 00:25:54.081794","views":220,"postsCount":5,"highestPostNumber":5,"likeCount":7,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"之前说过 Anonymous Coward Old: 微软 Azure GPT 接口 gpt-4-32k uika_winwing: 就是这个用量比想象中的要大。所以必须终止一下资金支持。热心門友提供的 gpt-4 接口一个月不到花了￥656.51，除此之外，最近的 AI 服务又用了＄32.59 是时候停止充值了 Chatbot 服务毫无意义 https://xjtu.app/t/llm/9644 openai embeddin…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":2,"name":"网站","slug":"website","color":"986a44"},"author":null,"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":38016,"postNumber":1,"raw":"\n之前说过\n[quote=\"Anonymous Coward Old, post:1, topic:9604, username:anonymous_coward_old\"]\n### 微软 Azure GPT 接口\n\n#### gpt-4-32k\n\n[quote=\"uika_winwing, post:10, topic:9154\"]\n![{94C5A208-D9FE-4c18-A3D6-734237E31558}](/uploads/image/c3/34/c3346d9baf7375baf98b3b7a88eb1e2a3990214d353f9c1e537eaebfbb04cf84.avif)\n\n就是这个用量比想象中的要大。所以必须终止一下资金支持。\n[/quote]\n\n热心門友提供的 gpt-4 接口一个月不到花了￥656.51，\n[/quote]\n\n\n---\n\n除此之外，最近的 AI 服务又用了＄32.59\n![Screenshot_20240730_230506|444x264](/uploads/image/39/b6/39b66fd845aec1e93b13bb85822bb25ae9e14d62956acb72c48de9d6f40b0904.avif)\n\n\n是时候停止充值了\n\n\nChatbot 服务毫无意义\n\n\nhttps://xjtu.app/t/llm/9644\n\n\nopenai embedding model based semantic search will perhaps be continued","cooked":"

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就是这个用量比想象中的要大。所以必须终止一下资金支持。
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热心門友提供的 gpt-4 接口一个月不到花了￥656.51，
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除此之外，最近的 AI 服务又用了＄32.59
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是时候停止充值了

Chatbot 服务毫无意义

\n $\"anonymous_coward_old\"$ \n anonymous_coward_old — #1 in LLM 在本站的应用\n

chatgpt 是大语言模型（LLM）的一种，LLM 在本站的应用不止于你能和 @aibot 同学聊天儿（翻看记录发现有不少同学的作业的作者是 GPT-4 吧 $\":a_grinning_face_with_sweat:\"$ ），还有：

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话题底端的“相关话题”推荐
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话题的“summarize with AI”功能
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点击右上角进行搜索时的“语义搜索”（理解话的语义后来搜寻内容，而非简单关键词匹配）
\n例如：
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RAG（Retrieval-Augmented Generation）
\n本站拥有两个插件都具有该能力
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https://www.discourse.org/plugins/ai.html

\n\n> The new“RAG Mode”* can now:\n> * Search your forum** for answers so the bot can be an expert on the subject of your forum.\n> * not just be aware of the information on the current Topic or Channel.\n> * Search Wikipedia\n> * Search current news*\n> * Search Google*\n> * Return current End Of Day market data for stocks.*\n> * Do \"complex\" maths accurately (with no made up or \"hallucinated\" answers!)\n

什么是 RAG 呢？

\n\n简单来讲就是在 LLM 做出回复时利用训练数据之外的其他信息来改进输出\n

例如，点击右上方 $\"Screenshot_20240223_232903\"$ 按钮，选择 helper 模式，输入：

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告诉我关于社团的信息
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即可获得以下回复：
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openai embedding model based semantic search will perhaps be continued

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我做的很多事情都是没有意义的，图一时的新奇罢了

要像 google 一样，把没用的业务全部砍了：

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https://goo.gl/

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之前居然用的是真 gpt-4，太豪了

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哇，好昂贵。虽然我本人不怎么用。
\n听说国内有些 ai 的 token 很便宜，如果要降本可以试试那些。

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