{"topic":{"id":12750,"title":"调研本站二手市场板块没有发展的原因","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2024-05-30 15:49:30.701741","bumpedAt":"2024-05-31 14:03:50.227065","views":239,"postsCount":13,"highestPostNumber":14,"likeCount":9,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"二手板块是校园 bbs 发展壮大，保持活力的必备条件，因为一般来说，校园内的新闻都不足以支撑一个 bbs 的访问，同学们没有足够的理由频繁登陆 bbs。之前由于本站人数不足，同学们不愿意用本站交换二手信息是可以理解的。如今本站人数已经达到一定的规模，但二手板块还是没有发展起来，令本人有些费解。在本人看来，网页相比 qq 群在二手信息交易方面是有 100% 优势的：过去几天的信息也很易于检索，反之 qq 群最多 10 条消息就会被淹…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":650,"username":"AdvisorUploadBot1","name":"AdvisorUploadBot1","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/02/36/0236028412afac37de85af1c94081c73f9bb07e13e7b33985f171687b0e7508f.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":34632,"postNumber":1,"raw":"二手板块是校园 bbs 发展壮大，保持活力的必备条件，因为一般来说，校园内的新闻都不足以支撑一个 bbs 的访问，同学们没有足够的理由频繁登陆 bbs。\n\n之前由于本站人数不足，同学们不愿意用本站交换二手信息是可以理解的。如今本站人数已经达到一定的规模，但二手板块还是没有发展起来，令本人有些费解。\n\n在本人看来，网页相比 qq 群在二手信息交易方面是有 100% 优势的：\n1. 过去几天的信息也很易于检索，反之 qq 群最多 10 条消息就会被淹没。\n2. 由于易于检索，不需要时刻登陆，可以每天统一查看一次是否有自己需要的东西。\n3. 不需要加好友，~~暴露~~ 可以保护个人隐私。\n\n在此匿名投票，希望🚪友提供信息，并欢迎匿名评论自己对于本站二手平台没有发展的原因。\n[poll type=multiple results=always min=1 max=4 public=false chartType=bar]\n* 我是本科生，我没有交易需求\n* 我是研究生，我没有交易需求\n* 我是本科生，我习惯用别的平台（欢迎匿名评论该平台的优势）\n* 我是研究生，我习惯用别的平台（欢迎匿名评论该平台的优势）\n* 我发自内心认为 qq 群比 bbs 在二手交易方面更方便\n[/poll]","cooked":"

二手板块是校园 bbs 发展壮大，保持活力的必备条件，因为一般来说，校园内的新闻都不足以支撑一个 bbs 的访问，同学们没有足够的理由频繁登陆 bbs。

之前由于本站人数不足，同学们不愿意用本站交换二手信息是可以理解的。如今本站人数已经达到一定的规模，但二手板块还是没有发展起来，令本人有些费解。

在本人看来，网页相比 qq 群在二手信息交易方面是有 100% 优势的：

过去几天的信息也很易于检索，反之 qq 群最多 10 条消息就会被淹没。
由于易于检索，不需要时刻登陆，可以每天统一查看一次是否有自己需要的东西。
不需要加好友，暴露可以保护个人隐私。

在此匿名投票，希望🚪友提供信息，并欢迎匿名评论自己对于本站二手平台没有发展的原因。

我是本科生，我没有交易需求
我是研究生，我没有交易需求
我是本科生，我习惯用别的平台（欢迎匿名评论该平台的优势）
我是研究生，我习惯用别的平台（欢迎匿名评论该平台的优势）
我发自内心认为 qq 群比 bbs 在二手交易方面更方便

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本账户已完成使命

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我分析了有以下原因：

\n
不是所有人都晓得如何高速访问国际互联网，好像是 Google 做过研究，网速慢 X%会导致用户划走的概率提高 Y%（ ⚠️ 不爱国的请划走 ❗️）
\n
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Discourse 的软件平台太高端，与虾饺饺子们八字不合 ☯️
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虾饺饺子们心善，不愿用二手交易这样的碎片化信息污染 高质量 $\"Screenshot_20240531_001124\"$ 高信息熵交流社区——交大门門 $\":doge:\"$
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本站由于计算机浓度、技术讨论含量较高，虾饺饺子们被嚇跑了 $\":parachute_cat:\"$
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@anonymous_coward 魔怔/傻 X 程度太高，虾饺饺子们被嚇跑了 $\":shrug_alien:\"$
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发布过二手物品出售，但用户量太少了最终没有成功进行任何一笔交易 (甚至包括免费送)，而且有购买需求的人不会定期察看二手板块 (因为很少有新发布)，但会查看二手群，所以最终还是在二手群完成了一些交易

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最近一段时间活跃度比早些时候还高了一点，

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但问题主要出在移动互联网时代某几家公司把控着互联网的入口，假如本站是一个微信小程序，绝不会像这样，例如“校园集市”UI 就做的稀巴烂（它们没有 UI，只有 XX 大学 No.XX 群）。

可以说，校园集市项目跟本站有些些互补的，它们上面没有任何有点沉淀价值的东西，全都碎片得不能再碎片（碎片的东西看多了大脑会降级的）。但又不完全互补，比如我可以设置专门的类别盛放碎片化信息（包括修改该类别信息搜索结果的权重），用户可以设置不同类别的通知/关注级别。

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跳出二手交易功能，站长可以考虑面向全国性的高效用户，打造类似“抒发森林”/“树洞”的产品

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二手市场交易不符合部分门友对匿名性的需求
即便在同一个校区，买卖双方的距离也可能较远，在宿舍楼群交易可以有效控制跑腿的距离

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首先，门的热度不够，什么校园集市 QQ 群，消息都是远远的多。
\n更重要的，求购者不会花时间常常检查一个网站内容。我自己在保研前夕的时候，也懒得一个个查学校官网。（大多用第三方聚合源或者网站更新提醒工具）。Qq 群只是平常看群消息的时候，顺带看一下卖什么东西。
\n以前也有过，二手网站。然后变成那种只卖大型商品的，最后就死了。

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一是本站人少；二是即使有还不是要依赖其他交易工具（例如支付宝），总不能报银行卡号吧

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专业的人做专业的事情，二手交易上咸鱼

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在门上进行过两笔交易，一笔买，一笔卖，都挺愉快的 $\":wave_gif:\"$
\n我感觉面向学生需求的商品更好买卖。此外，如果门友恰好出我想要的东西，价格和海鲜市场差不多，我肯定会选择支持门友出物 🥰

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