{"topic":{"id":11757,"title":"求【澳洲】【欧洲】PhD/MPhil 信息","slug":"topic","categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2024-04-24 14:00:19.370986","bumpedAt":"2024-04-27 03:58:13.049022","views":330,"postsCount":15,"highestPostNumber":16,"likeCount":16,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"lz 是个傻逼摆子且没钱，深觉香港、北美适合卷王当人生赢家，故而追寻相对轻松的地域进行一个学业 + 当地工作，享受一下岁月静好（）最好是适合低 rk 的，球球门友分享一些资源链接在下面，lz 看到有用的也会补充。","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":178,"username":"Hypocrisy","name":"rotartsinimdA","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/ce/f3/cef3773e378e161524cc7523c8a63dff0698d22802b0c1ab669894d395ee36a3.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":30707,"postNumber":1,"raw":"lz 是个傻逼摆子且没钱，深觉香港、北美适合卷王当人生赢家，故而追寻相对轻松的地域进行一个学业 + 当地工作，享受一下岁月静好（）\n\n最好是适合低 rk 的，球球门友分享一些资源链接在下面，lz 看到有用的也会补充。","cooked":"

lz 是个傻逼摆子且没钱，深觉香港、北美适合卷王当人生赢家，故而追寻相对轻松的地域进行一个学业 + 当地工作，享受一下岁月静好（）

最好是适合低 rk 的，球球门友分享一些资源链接在下面，lz 看到有用的也会补充。

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欧洲基本都要 ms 学位

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那边 Mphil 怎么样呜呜呜

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lz 是准备之后申请 PhD 么？不然为啥要读 MPhil？

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好贵，上不起。

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有 funding。家里没钱，上面说了

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🥹只记得英国，差点忘了欧洲部分 mphil 有 funding 了 🤡那边好杂，搞不明白，咱们学校也没什么人去，没参考纯盲申 😭

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我是在德国读的 phd，欧洲的 phd 不像美国有明显的 timeline，一般是全年可申的。

不卷的原因是很多欧洲的 phd 就不是一般意义上的做科研的，重点是解决某个问题，就要求非常 match，match 到子领域都要一样。然后解问题当然也不可能挖什么新坑了，也不可能有很大 impact。我四五年一直在给某个开源软件写代码，paper 就一篇在投，还没有本科科研成果多。最后写个课题报告就行了。

这样的好处就是毕业没啥压力，读博士期间基本每年都有两个月在旅游吧，全欧洲随便玩，还结了婚。每天朝九晚五。坏处就是基本没有什么竞争力，去稍微远一点的国家就业都很成问题。

欧洲博士工资也不像美国那么高，传统行业很低，cs 高一点。他们并不把 phd 学位看作很高端的背景，人均下限高的代价就是上限很低。

欧洲的 phd 申请有个小技巧，去做 ra，一两年之后必有收获，留在组里或者推出去读博都是必中的，因为欧洲学术圈是非常讲关系的。当然怎么申请 ra 又是个问题，不过比申 phd 简单多了。

总的来说，我见过的本科直博有且仅有清华的同学，其他除非你能拿出很硬的 paper，否则不太可能申到。西交由于校友很多，在美国还是有很高知名度的，在欧洲就低一点。我导师当初面试问我西交啥水平，我就说西交在中国和 kit 在德国差不多。

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当之无愧的精英 🛐

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实在是太感谢【jingying】了，名副其实！收获很大，感谢分享！

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欧洲有免学费或者学费很低的，但有 funding 的硕士几乎不可能。

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$\"6K9_NO${2C$G~){)SMG)U\"$

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我也想去欧洲读 mphil，仰望门友

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我看到欧洲（德国）一些学校已经从去年开始恢复国际生学费了

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大部分还是有学费的，想德国法国瑞士那些便宜一点，但是生活费算下来两年还是得 20-30w

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