{"topic":{"id":1093,"title":"[科研] 本科生如何尽力寻找外校的科研机会（如何将自己从能力到态度上转换为合格的工具人）","slug":"topic","categoryId":54,"createdAt":"2023-06-13 15:27:44.203445","bumpedAt":"2023-12-17 12:07:26.23438","views":1509,"postsCount":16,"highestPostNumber":16,"likeCount":20,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"发现没有科研相关的 tag，就在这里开一个 thread 来聊聊如何寻找外校的科研资源吧，或者说开启一段有趣且有正向回报的科研合作。","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":54,"name":"学术专区","slug":"academic","color":"9EB83B"},"author":{"id":378,"username":"Lumi","name":"lumi","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/5c/ee/5cee1f4bdf81c140625fc9b67c12da166d7392e3011665b5c223e62262363a3f.avif"},"tags":["科研"]},"posts":[{"id":2359,"postNumber":1,"raw":"发现没有科研相关的 tag，就在这里开一个 thread 来聊聊如何寻找外校的科研资源吧，或者说开启一段有趣且有正向回报的科研合作。","cooked":"

发现没有科研相关的 tag，就在这里开一个 thread 来聊聊如何寻找外校的科研资源吧，或者说开启一段有趣且有正向回报的科研合作。

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(1/n) 前提 1：认清现实，你想去做科研的学校肯定是比西交好的学校，那么学校里的老师一定有比你更优质的学生资源，而且高校的老师大多很忙，为什么抽空带你？凭什么抽空带你？所以，你一定要展示自己的竞争力。而对于做科研而言，最核心的竞争力是你的 motivation。老师眼中的本科生，再优秀无非就是两种，一张白纸或者是半张白纸，老师更看重这张纸有多大，而不是纸上的内容。所以如果确立好 motivation，就不用太在意外校同组同学之间的 pear pressure。

\n","createdAt":"2023-06-13 15:37:23.268199","updatedAt":"2023-06-13 15:37:23.268199","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":3,"wordCount":192,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":3,"users":[{"id":446,"username":"anon96245281","name":null},{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old"},{"id":1658,"username":"Urobuchi_Gen","name":"寂静岭"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":378,"username":"Lumi","name":"lumi","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/5c/ee/5cee1f4bdf81c140625fc9b67c12da166d7392e3011665b5c223e62262363a3f.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":2361,"postNumber":3,"raw":"(2/n) 前提 2：确定好自己的 motivation，或者说给老师证明自己的 motivation。注意我们这里的初心是 motivation 本身。而并不是为了寻找到科研机会，而“角色扮演”出的 motivation。对于老师而言，是为了 paper 或者推荐信的科研，还是因为感兴趣的科研一看就就知道，最迟也是合作不到一个月就明白了。如果是抱着一个好机会来进行的科研合作，大多没有什么好的结果。所以在初心上一定要确定好。","cooked":"

(2/n) 前提 2：确定好自己的 motivation，或者说给老师证明自己的 motivation。注意我们这里的初心是 motivation 本身。而并不是为了寻找到科研机会，而“角色扮演”出的 motivation。对于老师而言，是为了 paper 或者推荐信的科研，还是因为感兴趣的科研一看就就知道，最迟也是合作不到一个月就明白了。如果是抱着一个好机会来进行的科研合作，大多没有什么好的结果。所以在初心上一定要确定好。

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谢谢谢谢！支持支持！如果能持续更新就好了 (

\n","createdAt":"2023-06-13 15:52:14.313454","updatedAt":"2023-06-13 15:52:14.313454","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":21,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":31,"username":"TsuinoSora","name":null,"avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/77/06/7706643ba6d3ee1ec9d0070db0ad8a22bed8651fa8eb829cf44df4d20fa24b3b.avif","admin":false,"moderator":true,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":2365,"postNumber":5,"raw":"(3/n) 前提 3：show your motivation and prepare for it. 接下来是发掘自己的 motivation 或者说明确自己想要什么。一般来说，在相对 junior 的阶段开启一段科研。导师会确定这几个问题，1. 你的相关背景知识掌握的如何（代码能力和文献阅读能力），更 high level 一些的要求就是你对这个领域是否有清晰的认知；2.你是否能够 self-motivated，比如发现问题的能力。老师给一个 idea 可以主动去看 paper，或者去实现一些 demo，然后再开开脑洞发现一些相关的其他 paper。**而所谓的竞赛经历，科研经历，GPA 甚至是看过一些网课和做过的 lab，就是证明你有这些 motivation 的方式。** 老师所期望的并不是你什么都强，而是从短暂的 meeting 过程中，对你有一个相对全面的了解，了解你是不是足够感兴趣，来支撑 3 个月到 1 年的科研过程。","cooked":"

(3/n) 前提 3：show your motivation and prepare for it. 接下来是发掘自己的 motivation 或者说明确自己想要什么。一般来说，在相对 junior 的阶段开启一段科研。导师会确定这几个问题，1. 你的相关背景知识掌握的如何（代码能力和文献阅读能力），更 high level 一些的要求就是你对这个领域是否有清晰的认知；2.你是否能够 self-motivated，比如发现问题的能力。老师给一个 idea 可以主动去看 paper，或者去实现一些 demo，然后再开开脑洞发现一些相关的其他 paper。而所谓的竞赛经历，科研经历，GPA 甚至是看过一些网课和做过的 lab，就是证明你有这些 motivation 的方式。 老师所期望的并不是你什么都强，而是从短暂的 meeting 过程中，对你有一个相对全面的了解，了解你是不是足够感兴趣，来支撑 3 个月到 1 年的科研过程。

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资瓷资瓷🥺🥺

\n","createdAt":"2023-06-13 16:34:42.211627","updatedAt":"2023-06-13 16:34:42.211627","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":5,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":175,"username":"argmin","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":2407,"postNumber":7,"raw":"比较好奇的是，这种外校真的可能能找到吗，就算找到了也只能远程科研吧，这种效率未免太低了，对老师来说应该远不如本校学生方便联系且线下天天见方便吧，否则是在假期之类的？毕竟同城甚至同省，你交还是站在顶端的","cooked":"

比较好奇的是，这种外校真的可能能找到吗，就算找到了也只能远程科研吧，这种效率未免太低了，对老师来说应该远不如本校学生方便联系且线下天天见方便吧，否则是在假期之类的？毕竟同城甚至同省，你交还是站在顶端的

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喵？

\n"}},{"id":2417,"postNumber":8,"raw":"也可以自己在 GitHub 上创建/奉献于开源项目","cooked":"

也可以自己在 GitHub 上创建/奉献于开源项目

\n","createdAt":"2023-06-14 12:58:41.777145","updatedAt":"2024-03-17 03:58:36.78562","replyToPostNumber":7,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":18,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":131,"username":"ChanWingYan","name":"陳永仁 | CHAN Wing Yan"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":2,"publicVersion":2,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1047,"username":"anonymous_coward_old","name":"Anonymous Coward Old","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/32/4332638c11248b8ff07033c11de0759a55205facfbec85e14458245a91991faf.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":2509,"postNumber":9,"raw":"大四老狗说一下吧。。。非常建议出国交换，千万别以为出国交换只是上课。线下碰面比线上陶瓷抱到科研大腿的概率多得多。。。我本科期间的 pub 全都是大三交流期间线下交流合作出来的","cooked":"

大四老狗说一下吧。。。非常建议出国交换，千万别以为出国交换只是上课。线下碰面比线上陶瓷抱到科研大腿的概率多得多。。。我本科期间的 pub 全都是大三交流期间线下交流合作出来的

\n","createdAt":"2023-06-15 07:09:37.305271","updatedAt":"2023-06-15 07:09:37.305271","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":79,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":426,"username":"Komeiji_Koishi","name":"Komeiji_Koishi","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/5c/54/5c54227268cd2f275501ca5efdf88f7b1083908db846496c2c46eeb38cf65caa.avif","admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":3974,"postNumber":10,"raw":"我的感受就是难，太难了。\n科研本来就难，物质条件拉满都容易泄气，更别说自己一个人远程搞了。\n宁愿自己在学校做也别远程做。或者至少要有两个月线下（比如暑研就是这样，假期线下做，回学校再接着搞）。从头到尾远程做不适合没经验的本科生。","cooked":"

我的感受就是难，太难了。
\n科研本来就难，物质条件拉满都容易泄气，更别说自己一个人远程搞了。
\n宁愿自己在学校做也别远程做。或者至少要有两个月线下（比如暑研就是这样，假期线下做，回学校再接着搞）。从头到尾远程做不适合没经验的本科生。

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就算线下也可能只是一周见一次或两次，说实话和线上差不多太多，当然肯定是线下好。

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我现在就在米国暑研，只能说 AI 这块线上线下都一样，暑假老师都不来 lab 了。

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在 b 站上刷到过一个 up 主视频，感觉可以参考一下。
\n【手把手教你套词：新加坡国立大学计算机科学博士的全网最全套词分享 - 哔哩哔哩】https://b23.tv/KQqPyaX

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感觉新加坡国立就是计算机 PhD 里比较水的了，都不知道需不需要陶瓷

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先不说水不水，你都没看视频，人讲的是 ra 套辞

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？？NUS 的 CS PHD 真不算水吧，尤其近些年来 bar 更是水涨船高，很多清北的同学都去那边。

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