{"topic":{"id":10590,"title":"【提问】关于水硕","slug":"topic","categoryId":14,"createdAt":"2024-03-08 02:12:28.262847","bumpedAt":"2024-03-08 11:03:02.951133","views":392,"postsCount":8,"highestPostNumber":8,"likeCount":22,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"家里人对鼠鼠的最低要求是 60 分西交毕业，然后送出国去一所 QS 尚可的学校读水硕，从而名正言顺地拿到研究生学历那么从就业的角度说国外（美国、新加坡）对水硕的认可度如何？国内的话至少拥有西交的第一学历，如果专业能力强的话就业应该不算问题（水硕对毕业要求的要求高吗？如果不高的话能否在读研究生期间多注重课程外的学习？）","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"category":{"id":14,"name":"问答","slug":"qa","color":"f5c211"},"author":{"id":3074,"username":"Trifolium","name":"白车草","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/e9/21/e92121eac2b612e7ee2ed14db996c0fe51665ec0669ec0acc41dd23c17ae11cc.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":26227,"postNumber":1,"raw":"家里人对鼠鼠的最低要求是 60 分西交毕业，然后送出国去一所 QS 尚可的学校读水硕，从而名正言顺地拿到研究生学历\n那么从就业的角度说国外（美国、新加坡）对水硕的认可度如何？\n国内的话至少拥有西交的第一学历，如果专业能力强的话就业应该不算问题\n（水硕对毕业要求的要求高吗？如果不高的话能否在读研究生期间多注重课程外的学习？）","cooked":"

家里人对鼠鼠的最低要求是 60 分西交毕业，然后送出国去一所 QS 尚可的学校读水硕，从而名正言顺地拿到研究生学历
\n那么从就业的角度说国外（美国、新加坡）对水硕的认可度如何？
\n国内的话至少拥有西交的第一学历，如果专业能力强的话就业应该不算问题
\n（水硕对毕业要求的要求高吗？如果不高的话能否在读研究生期间多注重课程外的学习？）

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那么从就业的角度说国外（美国、新加坡）对水硕的认可度如何？
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美国的授课型硕士几乎等同于购买 CPT/OPT 工作机会以获得进入美国就业的门票。硕士项目的“水”与”不水“对找工的影响不是特别大。

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（水硕对毕业要求的要求高吗？如果不高的话能否在读研究生期间多注重课程外的学习？）
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不同硕士项目对毕业的要求差异较大，因此很难得出一个通用的结论。即使是同一个学校的不同硕士项目的毕业要求也有一定的差异。在作出决定时我们应当结合具体学校的具体硕士项目分析。举例来说，卡耐基梅隆的部分授课型硕士项目的课业压力非常大，而加州大学伯克利分校的授课型硕士项目则更加具有灵活性。

你可能需要考虑 60 分西交毕业可能就申请不到硕士了（如需更多 DP 可以参考一亩三分地论坛）。

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学位导向别选美国了，又贵又难申

我只知道二本 + 水硕=二本，c9+ 水硕到底能不能>c9 还真不好说 🤣可以先试试本科就业和水硕同时申，没有好的直接就业选择再接水硕 offer 呗 (timeline 可能需要再调查一下)

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除了美国之外其他地区的硕士项目性价比更低吧

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从就业的角度说国外（美国、新加坡）对水硕的认可度如何？
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美国就业很难了，不水的都很难就业。

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水硕对毕业要求的要求高吗？
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我感觉哪的硕士基本都能毕业。如果一个硕士学位课业太重不是什么好事，除非这个项目能保证我 gpa 大于多少就能进 xx 公司。

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如果不高的话能否在读研究生期间多注重课程外的学习？
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至于你想自己课外学东西，这是必然的，学校不会教你很多实习/工作相关的知识，或者说读硕士就别把找工作的希望寄托于学啥了。

总的来说我觉得 op 可以多想想自己的目标，要工作就直接工作，实在找不到就混个英澳学历回国，国内一般厂对 985+ 水硕基本是认同=双 985 的。要润就比较复杂了。

最后如果是我的话，商量让家里把这钱给我存银行吃利息，再随便找个清闲工作，比出国回来找个大厂社畜工作强多了

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水硕=本科找工

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同意楼上，在美国、坡这种正经学硕想留下都得早刷实习的情况下，学制短、内容少的水硕相当没有竞争力。

真想留下的话，感觉从拿到入学 offer 起就开始找实习，通过业界经验弯道超车可能是个好办法。

国内就业需要考虑的问题是，明眼的 hr 看到学业经历大概率会直接把你定位到你交的中下层，毕竟硕士项目很明显就是单纯水学历，所以水这个硕士可能反而是减分项。

不过 po 主家里有矿的话其实随意就好，按照家长安排的路子拿到硕士学位，顺便体验一下快乐大学。家长面子上也挂住了，po 主回来以后还可以继承家业（

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其他行业不知道，互联网 hr 眼里水硕=本科学校寄存器，而且定级上跟普通硕士一样。况且你交本科学历本身就足以进大厂，互联网也不太看重课内成绩，所以只要个人工程能力强的话，水硕还是很香的。
\n水硕最大的问题是：入学就要准备秋招，准备时间短，而且人在海外难找实习。因此建议楼主现在就开始准备找工作，最好留学前能有个实习

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